gambit37

I’m rather surprised by the tone of this response from a moderator. You are a voice for WordPress and you’ve done no favours for the organisation with your reply.

I thought open source software was made by the people, for the people? Your response suggests otherwise which leaves me rather confused.

I completely disagree that criticising free software is a slap in the face to the developers. You make it sound as if they are under duress. Any developer that I know producing software, free or otherwise, wants to make it the best it possibly can be and you simply can’t do that if you ignore valid constructive criticsim for your users.

I do agree that whining is pointless; constructive criticism on the other hand is valuable as you rightly point out. There are plenty of people doing just that right here because they thought it was a place to be heard. It comes as a blow to discover we’ve been putting our efforts into a pointless activity, through no fault of our own.

You state that you won’t argue “should be’s” but that is simply a cop out. It’s NOT CLEAR that this whole forum is user-to-user as you point out and it’s entirely reasonable for us to complain about that and expect something to be done, especially since the “Requests and Feedback” forum is taglined “Feature requests; criticism”. What else are we supposed to think? Simply saying “That’s the way it is” is not helpful. Why not take our issue to somebody who can actually change it and tell them that the Feedback forum is misleading and needs improving?

If what you say is true about this area being user-to-user only, then it would make more sense if the support forum start page made it clear in the very first paragraph of the page, and offer a link to the other avenues of feedback if someone wants to offer feedback to the WordPress devs. Then the Requests and Feedback forum should be renamed or better still, made a separate place on the site where it WILL be read by the developers.

The other avenues you mention are currently pretty well hidden and not easy for someone to find. Why is WordPress so keen on making it hard for people to voice their criticisims? This is open source software, not some global monopoly. You should be ENCOURAGING us to contribute, and in an open way, not through arcanely labelled systems hidden in the depths of the site.

If WordPress wants to be the best, it’s got to stop treating its serious users like this and start listening. We’re not morons as you seem to be suggesting. If you guys doesn’t listen, you’ll just go down the tubes as everyone jumps ship to find something better, in a community where people actually feel cared about.

You know, despite what you might think, we love the software; why do you think we get so vocal about things that don’t work so well? Because we want to help make it even better! What’s wrong with that?

I was simply offering advice. Inline font-sizing is a presentational aspect and belongs in the stylesheet, not the HTML. In this case, you’d create a few classes in your stylesheet for different font sizes, and apply those classes to the span instead of the font-size. Anyway, sorry to derail your topic.

All this stuff is moot anyway: Anyone who can actually do anything about this doesn’t read this forum anyway, according to Otto42. Apparently we should all be contributing our feedback elsewhere.

I disagree that you need a font-size button in the editor. That kind of styling should be done in your theme stylesheet and you should then asisgn classes to your span. A well designed theme should have everything you need in it’s style sheet: if it doesn’t, add it in there.

I agree, it’s rather frustrating. It would be nice to get at least some kind of notice that we are being listened to: these problems in 2.5 aren’t just going to disappear and the problems and changes are making life much more difficult for those of us using WordPress in any great depth.

I’m convinced that this upgrade was aimed at more casual bloggers as long term WP users seem to have had a lot of control taken away.

WP might be free, but we are still ‘customers’. Any company should know that if you ignore your existing customers when they tell you there’s something wrong with your product, you risk losing them forever.

Completely insane to have removed them, please put them back. You’ve made life harder for all of us who are doing custom navigations and clever theming.

It seems as if with this release (2.5) WP is trying as hard as possible to annoy long-term WP developers by making it HARDER to use than before; why exactly?

Sorry, I missed the bit in your post about it being a PDF. That’s simple — you just upload the files as attachments when you are writing a post and place a link to the file in your post once it’s uploaded.

There are more sophisticated ways of doing this if you want to use thumbnails etc. but if the question is simply “Can I put a PDF in WordPress?” then the answer is “Yes”. 🙂