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C Reign: I understand this fully. But it’s hogwash (for lack of a better word) to spin the redirection of content links through your own site in order to select related content. More likely, and believable reasons, are as follows:
- You are embedding backlinks to your own site (redirection) and thus, eliminating any real SEO benefit to the publisher, to the point is a selling point to bother with your plugin. ALL the links point back to your site. At the same time, using publisher’s content to instantly create backlinks to your own site and bolster your own backlink profile.
- Mining data fills a data need that is used to create media kits for your advertisers, based on aggregate data and usage, collected from your plugin users. This translates to a revenue stream for you. Let’s not kid ourselves, you’re effectively selling data access as your own CEO has stated that is the basic business model.
- You are adding a second icon link into everyone’s pages that link back to your join page, attempting to convince them to join. Once inside, then you can try to get them to install your extensions, apps, etc. for stuff like delivering advertisements and coupons and such to people who install your extensions. This additional link also creates a wide backlink profile to your join page and the shareaholic site overall.
- The fact “Related Content” is enabled by default is alarming, at best. At the very least it should be Opt-in with a full disclosure that there is little to no SEO benefit, and that you are collecting data from both publisher’s content and surfers, as well as using their sites to embed links to yourself. Being honest is not a bad thing.
I’m trying not to be critical here. But I think its dishonest for Shareaholic to include other provider’s like nRelate who actually do not embed links into your content, redirecting traffic through them, to inflate their backlinks profile and they determine related content just fine.
To be clear, if Shareaholic stopped the practice of syphoning traffic and embedding multiple backlinks into people’s pages, I think it’s otherwise a great plugin and would welcome it back onto our hosting services (Granted, we’re not that big.. only about 850 WordPress hosted sites using Shareaholic) and a bunch of others that won’t use it. At this point, we’ve discontinued support for it entirely. Opt-in, not Opt-out, is what we expect from legitimate providers. If you’d like to open a dialogue elsewhere to discuss our concerns, and are willing to address them then certainly I/we’d be open to that.
But to spin it like you are simply providing a great thing for free is dishonest. You are most certainly charging a price — traffic, backlinks, upsells to your own service AND people’s data.
ETA: In the interest of disclosure, I do not use nRelate only because I do not place our sites at the mercy of a 3rd party server to deliver images. Unless the images are hosted locally, we will not use it, or any plugin/script, etc that pulls content from 3rd party servers.
Forum: Plugins
In reply to: [nrelate Related Content] Thumbnail images loading slowlyAn ideal solution here would be for nRelate to have a CACHE folder in standard Uploads folder and store the images locally for those who would prefer to NOT have their content show up on other sites.
Thus, the option for “Local Only” or “Network Sharing”. Where network sharing would store the thumbs on the CDN servers, and local only would allow the plugin to be truly self-contained on an end user’s server.
It’s the storing of remotely hosted thumbs, versus locally hosted ones, that makes us reject this otherwise great plugin.
Forum: Reviews
In reply to: [AddToAny Share Buttons] Now tracks your users and displays ads and junkMicropat: does it track the blog’s users, as the OP claims (ie. data mining of any kind?)?
Does the plugin store any user data, in aggregate or otherwise, on the AddtoAny, or related, servers?
Or, does the plugin keep all data localized the user’s server, with no user/website data being transmitted, stored, disseminated or tracked on the AddToAny servers or services?
Just to be clear on my earlier points, Shareaholic’s CEO himself has stated publicly that their core business includes getting users to install their “free” tools in order to gather data, which can then be turned into profit via their partners and marketers. Effectively, they are selling access to data scraped and accumulated from your original content. Thus, the latest updates should really not be surprising.
Shareaholic CEO Jay Meattle told MediaNama that the companyβs basic services are free. But if you are are an advertiser and need access to targetable audiences based on the interest and intent signals mined from viewing and sharing habits of users, you will have to pay a subscription fee. It also partners with online shopping sites to offer deals and coupons to Shareaholic users whenever the latter is on that particular shopping site.
The company is currently building a platform to deliver targetable data and audiences to advertisers who engage in real-time buying (RTB) of display inventory.
Source: http://www.medianama.com/2012/01/223-shareaholic-raises-2-milllion-funding-business-model/
Nothing is free, and Shareaholic is hardly free. The price appears to now be:
- your original content that is ultimately scraped/scanned
- the traffic coming from your site (embedded links that route traffic through them)
- the backlinks to Shareaholic’s properties embedded into your pages
- the data scraped and accumulated seems to be in line the idea of selling access to data to marketers and advertising partners
- your user’s email addresses when they are forced to sign up for a “free account” to share your pages or original articles — although the email harvesting/forced registration only occurs with certain social networks instead of taking the user direct to the social network they chose.
If you think data mining in exchange for links to social networks or related content is a good trade off, then this is a good plugin for that. If you are uncomfortable in providing the original content, traffic and medium by which this company scrapes and accumulates data that can turned into profit for them, then this plugin is likely not for you.
peteratomic: I cannot recommend any of the Related Content / Posts types plugins as we simply do not utilize them. In many cases, they can tax a server’s overhead with numerous queries and use inefficient caching, or they use a third party server, not to mention the data mining going on, to scan content and embed the links via third party server. This puts your page load times at the mercy of the speed of their servers, as well as any congestion between your server and their nearest server. If it’s not stored and cached locally on our own server/database, we will not use it.
That said, you can try looking at the plugin repository here at WordPress itself. There’s a bunch of them listed. http://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=related+posts
If you’re concerned about privacy or data mining of your content, then I would suggest reading the documentation on each plugin for disclosure on the practice. I do know a popular one that’s been around for years is “Yet Another Related Posts Plugin”, but there are indeed others. I have no personal experience with YARPP, so am unfamiliar with pros and cons of it. Certainly I would suggest reading reviews prior to using any plugin for questionable behavior.
Similarly, there are far less intrusive Social Network/Sharing plugins available in the repository.
peteratomic: I’d be more concerned that a “social bookmarking” plugin is surreptitiously scraping/crawling all of my content and, instead of providing links direct to your content, they are first re-routing all links and clicks through “traffic.shareaholic.com”.
I’d also be concerned that a plugin is now using other people’s content, your content, to embed links to themselves and to their join pitch page (look at the little double square icon to the far right of the thumbnails. Click it and you’ll see you end up on a page trying to convince you to signup for their service).
I know for us, the past few updates, more especially with this latest one, just reeks of data mining and lack of respect for users.
Just some highlights of problems over the past few releases:
1. Enabling “features” by default. It was extremely obnoxious, even arrogant, to assume everyone would want “related” content show up on their posts without “opting” in to try it. It just happened when the plugin update occurred. Poof… new unstyled features added to your posts pages without permission.
2. Moving user’s blog plugin settings into a 3rd party cloud service instead of storing, and respecting, a user’s settings in their local database.
3. Covertly registering users for your own service — without full disclosure — just to share content. Registration mining. Wow, just wow.
There are certainly others. These are simply the three that have dramatically altered our perception of the trustworthiness of dealing with Shareholic going forward. The business model of Shareaholic seems to have switched dramatically this year from being a great social bookmarking plugin to one that is focused on data mining.
There is a real trend to implement features without thoroughly thinking it through then reacting afterwards. This further makes me question the integrity of Shareaholic when items like the ones I, and others have mentioned are implemented.
To that end, we will no longer be supporting Shareaholic going forward across our hosting services, and are replacing 850+ sites with a different, less invasive plugin.
It’s shame as this used to be “the” social networking plugin to use, but there are other social sharing options out there without the perceived data mining/registration mining practices being utilized now — and then arrogantly spun as a good thing. Amazing.
Best of luck with your new found direction. For us, no thanks.
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: Can WP Support 1000 Pages on a Dedicated Server?Right now, and consider this is August which is a slow time of the year…
August visits to date: 412,853
August Page Views to Date: 1,239,953You can add another 25 to 30% to those totals once October kicks in… then it typically stays steady like that thru March.
Regarding the pages part… I found it through a bunch of Google searches, but never anything concrete. here’s a few I just found real fast, although not the ones where this one guy was really saying don’t use WP for anything more than a coupe of hundred pages maximum.
Granted, the following thread is from 2007, but unless there is some sort of definitive response from anyone in the know at WP.org, people like myself will continue to question WP’s suitability as a viable option when compared to others known to handle an excessive amount of pages with relative ease ( Joomla, Drupal, et al). See second last post: 3466097
http://www.webmasterworld.com/content_management/3460261.htmConcerned as well about the Maximum Pages Limitation
http://wordpress.org/support/topic/276154?replies=5There’s a lot more if you need me to post more.
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: Can WP Support 1000 Pages on a Dedicated Server?I have one site with about 6,000 posts, numerous galleries, and about a dozen pages. It receives in excess of 400,000 unique visitors a month, has a couple of million pages, and uses no cache plugins at all. I am not a fan of many plugins to be honest. This site runs fine a single quadcore box with 8gb of ram — the database is stored on the dedicated SQl box mentioned in my opening post.
The biggest “unofficial” answer I could find on the pages vs. posts topic, was that pages were inherently harder on overhead. Thus, I am thinking if this is the worst case, and the other box works fine handling thousands of posts, then a second box should handle it just as easily, and at worst, would need a second processor.
Thanks for your follow-up.
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: Can WP Support 1000 Pages on a Dedicated Server?t31os_ offered: Not sure I can really answer that question myself, but i don’t see why not, i think the issues mainly come along when you start loading heavy plugins and mass amounts of scripts…
This is what I am leaning towards as well. Having 500+ WP installs under my belt over the past several years, many of them very well trafficked, but using posts instead of pages, I’m simply not convinced that going with pages over posts would cause any further overhead. Rather, I am thinking if anyone is experienced problems it is due to running it on shared hosting or inadequate hardware.
Thanks for your response. Much appreciated.
Pinoy.ca chimed in: Sorry to break it to you, but hire a consultant. This is exactly what they do.
I hardly need a consultant. Rather, I’m asking a question and expecting a generalized response from either users with high traffic sites, moderators, or those with experience using a lot of pages. If you have experience with either, then your opinion matters. Otherwise, your response(s) are irrelevant to the topic. Thanks.
PS: is your username deliberately chosen to troll here for users to your Joomla site?
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: How to: Check if a post has comments as a conditionOk, thanks Otto for the quick response.
Forum: Plugins
In reply to: [Plugin: Restore Post ID] Link Category ID’sThanks folks!
With each new WordPress release, it sometimes (often?) seems like what was standard functionality in one release gets eliminated, thus shifting the responsibility onto plugin authors to restore that functionality.
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: 2.5 Manage Wp-Admin PageIn this version, the managing of posts by author is no longer under the Manage Posts section. That’d be too obvious, I guess.
Go into your dashboard and then look at the far right of the screen, you know, where Settings, Plugins, Users are located (the stuff that is supposed to be little used).
Click on Users. Then you’ll see all of your users listed. At the end of each user’s record (row), you’ll see their number of posts. Click the number and it will filter their posts and redirect you back to, you guessed it, the Management section.
You can still filter by author. You just can’t get to those posts directly from the Manage Menu, you have to go through the User’s menu first and get redirected back to the Manage Posts section.
How’s that for efficient? π
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: thumbnail antialiasxanathon, what I found was this. Previously created thumbnails are not auto imported and converted into the new system. Yes, they will show up under the media gallery, but they will not use auto generated thumbnails from the new system. To do that, you must re-upload the pic via the new editor to get the new thumbs.
Hope that helps.
Incidentally, I was one of the critics of the thumbnail quality as well. For me, I’d much rather that option of selecting whether to use imagemagick or not, rather than the inherent ones with PHP, as, quite frankly, it is inferior quality to that of Imagemagick, and certainly offers far less options in terms of filters, (contrast, sharp/unsharp, erc).
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: How To Post On Future Dates With 2.5?The developers decided to hide the posting date function by default, thus making you add yet another click in order to access one of the options on the new write page.
To schedule a date for the future, or to backdate a new post, look for the tiny link “Edit” aright above the Save button. Click that and the date will expand, making it visible, and editable.