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Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Esmi, it’s not really that big a deal since I can just use the “Widget” method (and I already use a plugin that allows Page links to call sites), but my theme is my own creation (based on a WP template). I’ve been using my Theme for about three years, and the template it’s based on is certainly older than that.
But no matter, the “Custom Menu” solution simply allows me to link to a completely separate remote site/file. Not quite what I need.
I think my “PC Review” example describes it best. You don’t want a separate website for every subject (Drives, Monitors, Video Cards, etc). You want all of those items in the same site. And the ability to POST a review and discuss individual new items (instead of one comment field for twenty different video cards going back months or years.)
If my “use a link” idea is too cumbersome or impractical, ignore it. It was just a suggestion for another way to do what I’ve been needing: Multiple POST pages.
I think this thread has diverted WAY off the subject by focusing too much on “linking to pages” rather than WHY I suggested it in the first place.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Esmi, thanks for the follow-up. Sadly, my custom theme “does not natively support menus” (I’m not entirely sure why), so that page is disabled (suggesting the “Custom Menu widget”) but adding those links to the “Sidebar” isn’t exactly what I’m looking for.
I recognize that “framing” a different file/script is “a different ballgame”, but I’m trying to devise a solution that doesn’t require a massive overhaul of how WP works.
Regarding others’ concern for “bandwidth theft”, there’s a difference between someone trying to be helpful (like you) and someone that chimes in purely to accuse me of “theft” based upon their own misconception of what I’m trying to do.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Esmi,
I’ll review the link you provided. I have no doubt that through physically recoding WP, one can make it do almost anything, but my desire is for a “simple” solution easily accessible to everyone. Note my original request was for a way to do this through a simple link to a file other than the one that currently displays a “Page”.
Re: Mika, I apologize to you for my frustration with someone that clearly joined in… not to be helpful… but simply to accuse me of “bandwidth theft”.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.fonglh, I REALLY don’t think you’re paying attention. I’m not talking about wanting to display “someone elses” content. Yes, “widgets.php” is irrelevant. That’s why I made it up (actually, coincidentally, it’s a real file in WP, but I could have cited ANY file. “header.php” might make my point better.)
I don’t WANT to create AN ENTIRE SITE for every topic. In my “Food” example, I wouldn’t want separate websites for every course. You wouldn’t have separate websites for “Big Mac” and “Filet-O-Fish”.
On my blog, I would like to place completely different topics on completely different pages (ex: Imagine you had a “PC product Reviews” website. Maybe have “Computer Reviews” on one page, “CPU’s” on another, “Video Cards”, “Hard Drives”, etc, on others. You don’t want to create an ENTIRE separate site for every category.
I hope you understand now.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Mika, you’re an idiot. You clearly have no clue what “bandwidth theft” is. If I inserted your graphics/video/etc into my site, loading them off YOUR server, THAT is “bandwidth theft”. I’ve HAD people do that, placing graphics on their site that load directly off my server rather than just copy them and save them to their own server. Displaying an ENTIRE site framed by your own is not “bandwidth theft”. Even if everyone in the world (for some strange reason) decided to access Facebook via a page in my blog, they would still be visiting Facebook, just in a smaller window. So in fact, you ARE “sending people to that site” (but as you already note, is easily thwarted with “anti-frame” scripts.)
If a COMPLETE remote site appears in a Window, content, advertisers and all, how is that “bandwidth theft”? Like someone is going to see “Facebook” inside my site and think, “Gee! I didn’t know this guy owns Facebook!” If someone clicks an advertisers link on the Facebook page, does Facebook not still make money? Do you actually believe people will visit my site just to access Facebook or YouTube?
You said, “If they want you to do it, they’ll tell you how”. THEY DO. Facebook & YouTube LOVE embedding. Facebook has plugins for using their Commenting system and Albums. YouTube provides Embed Code for every video. That is closer to “bandwidth theft” than anything else. YouTube does not “provide code to embed an entire page” because all it takes is to display the URL in a window. There’s no widespread need for users to do that.
I could, in theory, embed every YouTube video in my collection on a single Page and “steal” a LOT more bandwidth. “They probably do not” have the API structure or the CSS to handle this? I severely doubt you have any inside info of what YouTube “rather you not” do. Do you REALLY think loading index pages eat up more bandwidth or would cause more of a “slowdown” than if I created a page with 100 embedded videos on it?
And “nefarious peoples” can always find a way to do what they want anyway. They don’t need WP to do that.
But as I told “fonglh”, “Facebook” and “Youtube” are the least of my concerns. I’m more interested in multiple Post pages.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.fonglh, remote sites like “YouTube” or “Facebook” are the least of my concerns. I only mentioned it as another use for the change I’m asking for to give the idea wider appeal. The fact I can LINK to another URL… TAKING VISITORS AWAY FROM MY SITE… is not helpful.
As stated, my primary desire is for a second “Posts” page INSIDE my site (preferably w/o having to create an entire second WP Blog).
I’m reading the “Page Templates” page now (which Emsi just linked to), and so far am seeing no way to Call the new page from my site (short of a link pulling it up as a stand-alone page.)
Please be clear on this, the primary objective is to display the page INSIDE my site, not a link to a remote URL sending visitors to an entirely new site or stand-alone page (you wouldn’t link to “widgets.php” from your toolbar, would you?)
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Esmi. Not familiar with “Multisite”, but a quick look at the description of the plugin seems like it was intended for something very different, and overkill for what I’m suggesting.
The “Page-of-Posts” script is new, but that note in the description: “displays posts from two specific categories” has me questioning just how much it would actually meet my needs.
fonglh, when you say “put the address in the URL bar”, you’re talking about the Browser, not the blog. Entering a URL by hand or a clicking a link that takes you to another site is not a “solution”, it’s a link. And whether you enter “into the URL bar” of your browser by hand or via a link makes no difference.
As I JUST noted, I currently HAVE a Page that is simply a “link” to my YouTube page. But why have that extra step? Why not just have my YouTube page appear inside my site when users click the link from my Toolbar?
If you can provide the PHP for the .htaccess file that would cause Page links to display a remote file/site inside my existing Blog, please provide it. Otherwise, you clearly have no idea what I’m talking about and should drop out of the conversation now.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.fonglh, agreed you don’t understand what I’m asking for. You can’t “already do” what I’m requesting.
My primary desire is to have multiple “homepages” in my blog… Pages where you can post multiple threads, each with their own Comment field and story link, identical to the homepage. It’s something I’ve been requesting for years but was told it would require too many changes to WP to work. But a “simple” solution would be to simply allow the Admin to define a remote file as a “Page”. I could then define entire html or php files to load instead of a Page with only one topic & one Comment field.
If you still can’t picture what I’m talking about, imagine a Food Blog with separate Pages for “Main Courses”, “Wines”, “Desserts”, etc. This would allow different writers to blog on different subjects simultaneously without needing multiple sites to do it.
I tossed in the “Facebook” and “YouTube” possibilities because I thought they’d have wider appeal: Allowing people to include their personal Facebook page (or celebrity FB page) inside their site. I personally have a Page that is simply a link to “My YouTube videos”, which is just one more unnecessary step when I could just display my YouTube homepage right there.
Currently, you can not embed another site using an “<iframe>” (I tried). Even if you could, it must be a fixed size (creating issues for people with different sized screens), with the WP “Comments” box underneath, in a window that scrolls off the screen if you scroll down to it. Incredibly ugly and unprofessional.
I’ve looked into it, and No, you can’t “already do this”.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Mika, embedding bits & pieces, like graphics or video, is “bandwidth theft”. Displaying an entire site is not. And unless you OWN Facebook or YouTube, I pretty much doubt anyone could embed your personal site via my proposal. Please re-read.
Also, how is displaying a FULL Facebook page or YouTube video list any different than simply linking to the page and sending viewers there? Whether the page appears full screen or in a frame on your site makes no difference to them so long as their ads appear.
“Bih”, I haven’t tried “Blog in a blog”, but I’ll check into it. I suspect it’s not as clear a solution as I’m suggesting here.
“Hubdubc”, I’m not sure how your idea pertains to my desire to substitute a Page with a remote file/site?
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Just tried the following. It doesn’t work:
<p>Iframe test:</p> <iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/" name="facebook" width="600" height="600" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" align="right" scrolling="auto" frameborder="0"></iframe> End.Can only specify fixed width/height as well (no percentages).
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Esmi,
What does it matter to Facebook or YouTube WHOSE page you display? They ENCOURAGE linking and embedding. Whether you embed your page or someone else’s doesn’t matter to them.
The “<iframe>” option is a poor one because it produces an html window limited in size that scrolls when your content does not fit (and if your page includes frames of it’s own, I’m not sure they would embed). It would also look very unprofessional for those of us that don’t want our site to look like it was coded by a high school student.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Esmi,
Under “General Settings”, you already define your site’s URL. When specifying the URL for your new Page, you can “hard code” the root URL of your link so it appears:
Enter Link for your new Page: http://www.yourdomain.com/ (input box here)…where you enter the name of your landing page.
Also, add special cases for “Facebook” and “YouTube”:
http://facebook.com/ (username)
or
http://youtube.com/ (username)It’s not complicated, and opens up an AMAZING number of possibilities.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Jake,
If an option was added to specify a URL as a new “Page”, you could specify your Facebook page, personal YouTube video index, a custom HTML page of your own design, or even other apps like a fully functional Bulletin Board (like: phpBB) or an eStore (like “OSCommerce”) inside your WP blog.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.Really, all that’s needed are just the necessary html/php/xml pages in a folder in your existing site.
Plus, linking to sites like Facebook & YouTube, which encourage linking.
Forum: Requests and Feedback
In reply to: "Pages" that display other websites.I’m not talking about embedding “someone ELSES site”.
I’ve been begging for YEARS the ability to include a second “homepage” inside my blog (one where you can have multiple posts with multiple comment fields). But every reply to my request has been some criticism of how difficult it would be to make that substantial of a change to WP.
But I could create an entire second “hidden” WP blog (unpublished URL) and link to it as a new Page.
The “fix” to prevent bandwidth theft is simple. Restrict Pages to the same root URL.