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  • Hey Tim, thanks! — looking at it now — not obvious to me (sorry). I thought that the “change permalink” at the top of editing a page would let me do that(a long time ago), but it seemed to just go into “choose how to automatically name pages” – which is not what I wanted — just wanted, for instance, to name THIS one page. Reading through “using permalinks”, I still don’t see how to do that. And the closest I came, I think was “this is discouraged, but you can use %postname%”…

    So, let’s just pretend <ahem> that I’m real stupid and could you spell out how I would actually change a single page name? Say it is currently ?page=23 and I want it to be lessonlist.html. How would I do that?

    I’m on linux, btw. thx! — Joe B.

    As I “walked away”, I think I realized part of the problem – wp doesn’t just make pages, it **needs** to control them (a control freak) and it does this through the “/?page” mechanism. It doesn’t really create pages. For what I want, it would have to **actually** create them (like my other site editors do). Maybe that’s why this useful feature doesn’t seem to exist? Hmmm…. well, it still leaves me with a couple of problems which wp just doesn’t seem to solve..

    I was looking for how to have “real” page names in wp and came across this thread. What plugin are you mentioning? Does it do what I am looking for? Have I missed something fundamental about WP because this seems like a useful thing for several reasons.

    I want a name like lessonlist.html instead of ?page=205. It’s a whole lot easier to tell someone to go to the former. I’m trying to replace a current website with wp and this REALLY gets in the way, ya know? Also, I just ran into having to change flash “movies”. Current is something like “…/lessonlist.html#3” for a pointer in the flash file. I need to make that something like “…/?page=205#3”. Now, doesn’t that seem obtuse and just asking for trouble? (and I can’t just simply use this flash file which was built in 1999!!)

    It just seems that there are several reasons for letting people name pages as fixed anchors, entry points, talking points, replacement pages/systems, etc. instead of being forced into some automatically generated page “name”. I’d like to be sure that “lessonlist.html” doesn’t change on me – and also, lessonlist means a whole lot more and is easier to remember than ?page=207 (or did he say 205…or..). OK, so I try not to be a supreme geek and make everything obtuse and hard to use, explain, etc…hmmm..

    So, what is this plugin (I tried looking for it a couple of ways) and will it let me name individual pages? (Or am I missing something fundamental that already lets me name individual pages?)

    thx! — Joe B.

    Thread Starter joebeauchamp

    (@joebeauchamp)

    OK, I hunted and futz around — looking and trying lots of stuff. This is probably very elemental to many people familiar with WP. So, they don’t read this, don’t care, or there aren’t that many who understand WP?

    In any case, I found a comment.php out there which set things up. I grepped everything for “cols=” trying to find what put it in. I screwed around with my style.css until my nose bled – or whatever. Finally, and I don’t know how I missed this one before, I found a comment.php with it in there, copied to my theme and modified it to be “cols=80%”. That worked.

    Now, why was this so tough? Why isn’t there a “roadmap” saying how you do x y and z? Are there just too many things to WP? Is it made to be obtuse?

    I have a lot of the same problems with css. When it comes to making a change, rarely does the author make it clear what goes where. So, maybe it is me – I’m used to “old style” programming where there is documentation and it tells you what to look for and everything is frequently cookie-cutter the same logic. Not so here.

    I appreciate samboll’s reply – thx!

    I hope others trying to create a WP template are more attune to the logic than I apparently am — or someone puts some stuff together to tell newbies to look for these things and where.

    [Not that it matters to anyone, but I’ve worked on whole systems and found one very useful way of finding things is by “debugging” the code – running it step by step. If I were able to see what put in “cols=100%”, I would have found it a lot faster. It would be nice if there were a way to process a WP page or post in this manner. But, there are probably few of us system types left, so it probably doesn’t make sense to put in the effort. Just maybe a suggestion..]

    I’m set at the moment – thx again.. — Joe B.

    Thread Starter joebeauchamp

    (@joebeauchamp)

    nope – nothing there. Since I “created” this template from a website, almost everything is “default”. I did run across a .comment… in a stylesheet that someone wrote about – so I tried adding it. I tried several ways – maybe I don’t know the format. Instead of spending years trying to learn everything about everyone’s different ways of doing stuff, I try to work with what is there and just make it work. There is plenty which still throws me about css, for instance, however, what I don’t know rarely matters. Maybe I could tell WP to use cols=80% instead of cols=100% (as it does) by using the css – I tried, but apparently, if it can be done that way, I didn’t do it the right way.

    But I’m “listening” if someone can tell me.

    thx!

    Just wanted to change something – I found that the plugin DOES change the limit for the archive – what threw me on that is that the template still has “previous” at the end of the page – even though nothing is there.

    And, if someone reads this and would like to help in general, I found it a bear to find this posting. I gave up in wordpress and had to go to google and guess what key phrases I had. That seems odd, too. I’m used to going to my profile on other forums and seeing pointers to my postings or something similar. Also, getting email if someone replies, etc. I’m thinking that wordpress is doing all these things but in some other fashion which I have not hit upon (sort of remember getting and email for something else, I think that was wordpress, so I might be set up for that – again, I don’t know) — it is hard to believe that it is so primitive that none of these “automatic” functions are here and that it is so difficult to find my own postings. I tried all kinds of things, in posts and comments. Gave up and went to google with “wordpress archive page limit Joe” and found it almost right away (even though I had lmit instead of limit – HA!).

    Maybe I’m not alone and wordpress really could use a nicer friendlier interface? That’s hard to believe since what it offers the blogger is so flexible and nice. But, obviously, I don’t know..??

    thanks again.. — Joe B.

    What I keep running into, and am not sure if it is because I’m looking at things wrong, am old, or they really are this way, is that it should be a snap to set the limit on posts to an archive page – it isn’t. I set “showposts” or some such by looking at some forum posts (why? because the freakin documentation doesn’t tell me how this stuff works, so I can’t go it alone), and instead of doing so, now it starts at the current top post and goes from there instead of the those for the month (in the archive).

    Doesn’t it seem reasonable that I should be able to set “limit=99” for the particular thing and not have it destroy every other parameter which was obviously set by wordpress to get there? Makes no sense to me.

    Also, I see a bunch of messages here which I don’t see well addressed to simply change the look of the archive. To me, an archive should be… uh, structured. Month then subject then, if you want, content. I’m surprise that this is not the default.

    So, I just tried the custom-post-limits with the result that it made no difference for my page limit on my archive page.

    Why does this have to be such a big deal and so frustrating? Seems like a simple change – the number of posts on JUST the archive page.

    So, I figure I simply must not understand the architecture of wordpress because simple things should not be so difficult, right?

    Simply, I want when someone clicks on March, they get the list of subjects to then click on if they like them — not a barrage of content from everything in March. Well, I zapped things so that I could get everything except the limit per page. OK, simple, right? Just find the parameter and change it. Nope, just doing that and now it forgets what month I want. I’ll just look at the documentation about how to control archive output… oops.. what documentation..??

    HA! I can’t win… So, if I’ve missed something simple, I’d love to hear why I’ve been such an idiot trying to solve something “simple”.

    thanks to all… — Joe B.

    I doubt that you are still hanging around hoping for an answer – but maybe? I looked at that site – It is sparse in the html, so I’m guessing that it is done by hand, more or less.

    Take a look at the google news plugin. It does a good job of the basic things.

    Because I cannot get the filter to work for me, I came back to this forum to see if there are ways to get around that situation – and came across your message.

    If your filter is simple, I think you’ll find that plugin great.

    WP-O-Matic or some such is the name of a “plugin” which will read rss feeds and put them in as articles for you. I will look at that next, for me, if I can’t get the filter to work on the google news plugin.

    Anyway, give that a try – it’s pretty nice..

    –Joe B.

    Thread Starter joebeauchamp

    (@joebeauchamp)

    OK, maybe I missed something — I replied 2 days ago after putting the code out there – and I don’t see my reply and I know I posted it. Well, I don’t know what the pointer is to that code now — OK, I can’t find it there, either? Hmm… parallel universe?

    So, I just did it again http://pastebin.ca/1374915 – but the code is simple, I assume I’m missing something fundamental. a piece is changing
    the_excerpt();
    to
    js_escape(the_excerpt());
    and it does nothing. If the text is “this freakin’ thing” instead of getting “this freakin\’ thing” I get the same as before I put in js_escape.

    I don’t know why, I looked around and found other peoples’ examples of similar. So, I figure this would be a snap for many people here to tell me what I’m doing wrong.

    — Joe B. [Gee, I hope that THIS reply sticks..?? HA!]

    Thread Starter joebeauchamp

    (@joebeauchamp)

    Hmm. thought I’d get notified if a got a reply… silly me – must have missed some setting..

    Here is CNN: http://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/cnn-news.zip
    and google news: http://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/google-news.zip

    in .htaccess, you want a rewrite working for you. There are quite a few examples like this because it is a common need. I was just looking today because I need to redirect to better integrate woodpress into my stable site. I hesitate to try to put the code in here — having trouble trying to do a simple direct right now. And, similarly, I was looking for something of the same. Currently having trouble with php doing it – picking php because I don’t know where the site will go and don’t want to introduce extra side thing that need to work right.

    You have RewriteEngine On and usual put in the RewriteBase to lessen machine confusion, then for you, it is a simple RewriteCond .*/index.php?p=.*
    followed by RewriteRule with the R flag for redirect. Anyway, a look at the examples should give you the proper syntax. I don’t think you’d need more than those 3 or 4 lines ..

    tsk tsk – yes you can. You guys with your hammers — everything looks like a wordpress nail. Well, out there, there are plenty of sites with many manhours of work in them that don’t “just rewrite” conveniently into a wordpress template. You know, like some people expect the light bulb to be made to fit the car, not the other way around. I’ve been running into this all week trying to figure out the best way to put the 2 together. I’m beginning to conclude that I should just stick with the current stuff and kiss off wordpress until someone thinks it is worthwhile to have it augment prebuilt professional sites.

    If you want bits and pieces, someone did write that up – In my case, I used the one html page (main page), put in the proper require, put the php code in where I wanted 5 subjects to be listed, and it works (I have a separate folder with wordpress fully in it and point to the pieces that I want and then call them). I had to make it php and I did that by a require of the html into a new php file. And things are missing — they click on a subject and bounce off to a wordpress article, well, they can’t get back. Also, all my other html points to index.html, not index.php.

    So, yes, you can put bits into your real site. I’m getting the feeling that nothing has been engineered into wordpress to actually support that type of thing — you know, like what could really benefit the real world.. Nah, we just tell people to rewrite their website as wordpress templates. Oh well, maybe someday both the simple tools will be there and some thought that people aren’t necessarily crazy about rewriting $200K of website because wordpress “won’t” work in other websites…. well, it does — apparently despite itself?? 😉

    I have to say, there are a ton of templates there. Also, most suffer from text flowing off or on top of other stuff, columns that must not fit because the sidebar is 15 feet down by the floor instead of beside the left column, and all the pages look pretty much the same (except text). Seems to be a downside of wordpress – Can you blend header with content area to give different smooth looks? I doubt it. How about using wordpress to have a different look for your FAQ than your answer-line than your news stories? How about allowing some traditional static pages with useful info? Those “normal” things seem to be a stretch for wordpress — and certainly nothing that anyone associated with wordpress would dare to think/talk about solving..

    WordPress seems to be powerful enough to do all these things, but it is not designed do to so and you have to hunt all over to find someone who is trying to do something other than to have every page look the same for the site. I hope it gets past this “toy” stage — it seems like a decent product/concept… [I’m guessing you can tell that I’m real tired and should have given up on this hours ago to get some sleep… HA — yep, you’d be right…]

    All that swell stuff that was suggested starts with “make sure your modem is plugged in” type logic. I’ve been spending a week going through the same thing over and over — You can’t imagine how many times I’ve been pointed to “design your wordpress site” and it turns out to be “download a template”. Well, I just found this, but it is late so I only got to a few sentences — looks good — an honest to goodness article about conversion instead of a treatise on the english language, bill gates, the way of the world and maybe touch on conversion… Look at this one: http://www.jestro.com/web-design/convert-xhtml-css-to-wordpress/

    I hope it answers a few questions for me — [Yeah, I know, header footer, sidebar and content…. That’s swell – for a fun little page. How about a **real** site being merged / converted? Yeah, I get it — header footer sidebar, content…]

    HA!

    I picked this up from someone’s blog on how to put (in my case subject lines) into my website. This, by no means, solves my problem but it does work — I need to change my html to php or “require” it in a substitute php file. First put in this for the reference (your pointer will be different depending upon where your wordpress is):
    <?php
    define(‘WP_USE_THEMES’, false);
    require(‘../wordpress/wp-blog-header.php’);
    ?>

    Then, in my case, where I want the first 5 subject lines:

    <?php
    $how_many=5; //How many posts do you want to show
    require_once(‘../wordpress/wp-config.php’); // Change this for your path to wp-config.php
    file ?>

    So, it seems that wordpress might be able to do what I expected it to, however, I find info on doing this about nil.. Hope that helps you!

    Joe B.

    I,too, have the same problem – have a professional editor that does a nice job of creating powerful websites – easy to change, to color, adding pages, completely flexible look. And, I wanted to have fresh content associated with it. So, I spent the last week studying both it and wordpress. It seems everyone thinks everyone else should change to “their” system. Yeah, swell. 20 HTML pages that I can instantly change and coordinate and they all don’t have to have the same header and footer like wordpress seems to require (not the focus of my looking, but it seems that all pages look the same in wordpress – just changing text).

    Logically, I can try to put wordpress in an established site or try to take a multifaceted powerful site and make it <heaven help me> a template.. It looks bleak if both sides insist that I give up the other and convert everything. <sigh> Unfortunately, so far, I’ve seen good questions on this forum and <uh> missing answers..

    I have taken my main page and put in php to make it hold story titles after reading someone’s write-up. I need to turn the html into php. That works, but what about all the references to index.htm and what about wordpress “home” not being the site home?

    So, I’m still hunting. I would have thought that wordpress would be designed to fit into websites – I guess not — like everyone else, they are….. “different” and you “must” pledge loyalty to sir wordpress and forsake all others… I guess <sigh>….

    I would have thought that SOMEONE would have put together something on how to merge wordpress into your site. [Sure, go tell verizon to dump their thousand of pages and make all have the same look because wordpress isn’t designed to work with other sites..??]

    I’ll keep looking some, but I’ve spent enough time trying to learn wordpress to make this work that I could have supported the other code for the next 6 months in the time I’ve blown on wordpress. Ouch.. Oh, well…

    — Joe B.

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