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  • Thread Starter jasonrohrer

    (@jasonrohrer)

    You’re right! I see the same message on wordpress.com (but not .org, here).

    Sorry, I didn’t realize there was a distinction.

    Also, yes, it is a 403 error (forbidden).

    Will contact them. Funny that I get the same LOST? page for the contact form, though:

    http://en.support.wordpress.com/contact/

    Anyway, will access it with another browser. Thanks for the help!

    Thread Starter jasonrohrer

    (@jasonrohrer)

    Yeah, that would be a solution for my end specifically.

    But this is essentially broken WordPress (or maybe some security plugin?) behavior. The page should at least say “sorry, your old browser isn’t supported.” The LOST message is confusing and looks too much like a 404 error page. But even if an older browser is really not supported, it should at least let you through after a warning (like YouTube). It should be a soft, not hard, failure. Proceed at your own risk.

    Here’s a deleted thread from a few weeks ago documenting similar behavior for the Midori browser:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kJxESZjYUA0J:en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/lost-are-servers-say-you-shouldnt-be-here+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ubuntu

    Just grep’ed the WP source code for the word “sentries” or “lost?” and found no matches. So it must be an optional plugin.

    Is there any way to query a WP site externally to get a list of installed plugins. Like a php-info type call? You know, to figure out what plugins time.com is running?

    Finally, this plugin is erroneous directing people to WP tech support for help:

    “If you are sure this is the place you are trying to go, please contact us and we will be happy to help.”

    Where “contact us” links to: http://en.support.wordpress.com/contact/

    Thread Starter jasonrohrer

    (@jasonrohrer)

    Also, what do I mean by “old and slow”?

    My other machine here is a Dell laptop from 2000 with 256 MB of RAM. It’s running Xubuntu (an even older, lightweight Ubuntu) that has Firefox 2.0.0.4 on it. Admittedly, this browser renders more modern pages in a semi-broken way. BUT… it does NOT get caught in the “Lost?” sentry pages…

    Anyway, when you’ve got 256 MB of RAM, you can’t exactly run FF 28.

    So, as far as I can tell, only one browser (Firefox 4 on Lubuntu) seems to be affected by this.

    Thread Starter jasonrohrer

    (@jasonrohrer)

    Thanks for thinking of that.

    So, I’m on a very old Lubunutu (light Ubuntu) on an old, slow computer. That Lubuntu shipped with Firefox 4.0.1, and it’s hard to upgrade it cleanly (because newer versions are not in the repository for that Ubuntu version). Also, because it’s an old, slow system, newer Firefoxes are much slower than 4.0.1 (require more RAM, etc.).

    HOWEVER, if I run a stand-alone FireFox 28 on the same machine, the “Lost?” pages aren’t triggered and I can access these sites.

    “Just run Firefox 28” isn’t exactly a solution, though, because I’m on old, slow computers.

    Any idea why this “WordPress sentry” is being triggered by an old Firefox?

    Also, I’m answering this forum post from FireFox 4.0.1, and everything looks and works fine.

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