• Are there any immediate plans to add functionality to use PayPal Payments Advanced?
    The following may help others: I recently purchased S2member Pro thinking I had done the proper DD on using PayPal for subscription payments for my site. Turns out that PayPal offers options: Standard (free), Advanced ($5/month), and Pro ($30/mo+).
    In trying to set up the Payment gateway & needing the ability for recurring (subscription) payments, I learned from PayPal that the Pro version required various configurations made to my site such HTTPS, SSL, for security purposes and worst of all, the customer’s credit card info is stored on my site which makes me responsible if hacked & stolen.
    PP Standard redirects the customer away from your site to a secure PayPal payment page (no risk on my end) but is a clunky experience with some limitations, such as requiring the user to have or create a PP account before being able to pay via any credit card.
    However, when using PP Advance, when the customer decides to purchase/subscribe, an secure (via PayPal) i-frame window from PP opens within your site so the customer does not leave, a much more streamlined & 100% secure transaction (no CC info stored on my site, no HTTPS needed on my end). At least this is what I was told by a PayPal rep who seemed very knowledgeable & even familiar with S2Member.
    Please let me know if support for PP Advanced is in the works & if so, the ETA. Otherwise, I may be forced to find another Plugin capable of supporting it. Thanks.

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/s2member/

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  • Wow! There’s so much disinformation here that it’s hard to know where to begin.

    So let’s try starting with your direct question. While I am not part of the development team for s2Member, I think it’s pretty clear that support for PayPal Advanced won’t be coming.

    Why not? Well, if you got what you repeated above from a PayPal rep, I think that provides all the reason needed.

    I learned from PayPal that the Pro version required various configurations made to my site … and worst of all, the customer’s credit card info is stored on my site

    Ha, ha! That’s 100% false. That’s what the payment processor (i.e. PayPal in this case) is for!

    At least this is what I was told by a PayPal rep who seemed very knowledgeable & even familiar with S2Member.

    Well, s/he was obviously not so knowledgeable.

    I learned from PayPal that the Pro version required various configurations made to my site such HTTPS, SSL, for security purposes

    HTTPS and SSL are the same thing! And you will need it installed, IRRESPECTIVE of the specific plugin you use to take payment, if you don’t redirect customers off-site.

    Using the Pro version of s2Member, together with SSL, enables the use of just one form to make payment and registration an all-in-one, seamless experience.

    So now you should see why support for PayPal Advanced is unlikely. Dealing with PayPal for many developers and sellers has become such a pain that many do so only if absolutely necessary. This is why Stripe has now become so popular: it’s easy for developers to hook into, and it’s simple for sellers to use. PayPal could hardly be more problematic.

    Thread Starter jaco44

    (@jaco44)

    @KTS195, Thanks for replying but with all due respect, if you’re not part of the development team, it would be more appropriate for them to answer the question.
    Not only have there have been numerous request from S2member users for PayPal Advanced integration, but also numerous responses from the S2 team that although no date has been promised, the development team is aware of the demand & looking into it (Jan 2013: “We have PayPal Advanced in the requests list and we’ll add it when we can, but there’s no date for it..” (additional comments)
    As for whatever technical difficulties it might have, PayPal is still the 800 lb gorilla of online payment processing, a well recognized & trusted name to the general public (i.e.- my subscribers) and as such, maybe the extra effort is warranted.
    Whether you or the PayPal rep were correct in that configuring my site for HTTPS was not needed for PP Advanced I don’t know. What I am certain of, as many in the S2 forums have mentioned, is that PayPal Pro is too costly for sites with relatively small sales volume whereas PP Advanced is not.
    I simply wanted to know from the development team if this PP Advanced integration is currently in the works or not so I can wait or move forward with another option.

    I simply wanted to know from the development team if this PP Advanced integration is currently in the works or not so I can wait or move forward with another option.

    No, you didn’t “simply” do anything of the kind. That question was part of a comment in which you repeated a serious falsehood, and then compounded that with other confusions, which might mislead other (actual and potential) users.

    I put that right, and explained why.

    Thread Starter jaco44

    (@jaco44)

    Normally I take the high road & do not reply to inflammatory comments within a forum but being that all but one of my individual comments that you decided to break down and reply to in an inflammatory manner were dead wrong, it is only fair to others that might be interested in this topic, or considering following your advice, should be aware that although you pretend to come across as a someone very knowledgeable on these issues, you clearly are not.

    Wow! There’s so much disinformation here that it’s hard to know where to begin. So let’s try starting with your direct question. While I am not part of the development team for s2Member, I think it’s pretty clear that support for PayPal Advanced won’t be coming.

    You were clearly wrong as shown in my original reply with a link a supporting evidence. I concede to the sole comment that you made that seemed accurate; I likely misunderstood the fact that CC info is stored on my site with the fact it can be compromised if the security settings on site aren’t configured properly using PP Pro.. something beyond my capabilities and which is an additional expense to for a highly qualified & competent programmer to establish and maintain/update).

    Well, s/he was obviously not so knowledgeable.

    As if it weren’t obvious from my initial post, I am far from a “techxpert” & I stand corrected on that point of CC info stored on my site. Being that you were wrong on every other statement you made after that last one makes the PayPal rep clearly more knowledgeable than you on these issues.

    “I learned from PayPal that the Pro version required various configurations made to my site such HTTPS, SSL, for security purposes.”
    HTTPS and SSL are the same thing!

    I never said they weren’t the same thing, I simply added a comma between them. The cost of an SSL certificate which is required for PP Pro is part of my reluctance to use it although I plan to research this issue further. The exclamation mark you added was no more needed the the ‘Ha,ha!” in your previous response.

    And you will need it installed, IRRESPECTIVE of the specific plugin you use to take payment, if you don’t redirect customers off-site.

    Wrong & wrong again: 1) “Accept credit cards and PayPal directly on your website. Keep customers on your site for the entire checkout process without the full burden of protecting their financial data. In addition to a merchant account and gateway in one, PayPal provides you with a secure checkout template to integrate within your website. Your customers won’t know that we’re processing their payment, making your business look more secure and professional.” Source: PayPal
    2) PayPal Payments Advanced DOES NOT require an SSL certificate. Google Search

    In addition to being flat-out wrong on all but one of your comments, you made a claim but provided no supporting evidence that support for PP Advanced from the S2 development team is unlikely, simply your opinion. As I showed in my previous reply, the comments from the S2 team clearly contradict what you said. While you very well might be right, & they have since decided to no longer pursue supporting PP Advanced, I simply want to hear that from THEM.

    On that last jab you took at me in your previous reply, very slowly simply try reading my first and last sentence of my original question to the S2 team where I clearly asked if & when support for PP Advanced would be added. The rest of that post was simply info that thought others might be interested in knowing, with one incorrect statement regarding CC info being stored on my site.

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