Feedback för Gutenberg

  • workmannen

    (@workmannen)


    1 month ago

    I’ve been using Gutenberg for a while now but still don’t understand what’s good about it for the following reasons:
    1. It takes a long time to learn
    2. It takes a long time to learn where things are
    3. Much is invisible and only becomes apparent when you hover over it.
    4. It’s a lot of “fun” to use the pointer to find hidden items.
    5. It’s terribly annoying to have stuff popping up from invisible to visible and back again
    6. It takes MUCH longer to write a post with Gutenberg
    7. It’s MUCH faster to write posts with the old editor
    I don’t know ANYONE who uses Gutenberg.
    So, tell me what’s better about Gutenberg?

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  • Md Rashedul Islam Chowdhury (Ric)

    (@mdridipu)

    1 month ago

    Hi @workmannen
    Everyone has a different workflow, so it’s understandable that Gutenberg doesn’t suit everyone.

    One of its main goals is to provide a consistent editing experience across WordPress using blocks that can be reused, rearranged, and customized without relying on shortcodes or custom HTML. It also makes it easier for themes and plugins to integrate with the editor in a standardized way.

    If there are specific parts of the editor that slow you down or are difficult to use, sharing those examples may help the community suggest tips or improvements.

    Md Rashedul Islam Chowdhury (Ric)

    (@mdridipu)

    1 month ago

    If you’re interested in learning more about the Block Editor, the official WordPress documentation is a good place to start:

    https://wordpress.org/documentation/article/wordpress-block-editor/

    There’s also a collection of tutorials and learning resources available on Learn WordPress:

    https://learn.wordpress.org/

    Thread Starter workmannen

    (@workmannen)

    1 month ago

    With the classic editor, there are no tutorials needed, you learn it in a few minutes and can quickly post what you want. The block editor is cumbersome, slow, invisible and flickering, which creates time thieves. On top of that, it takes a long time to accomplish something which then still looks like it was done in the classic editor.
    No, this is not good. The best thing would have been that the editor people use the most should be pre-installed while the one used only by some people with this need would be an add-on.
    I don’t understand the block editor in Widget at all.
    Incredibly stupid to replace a winning team with something few understand.

    Md Rashedul Islam Chowdhury (Ric)

    (@mdridipu)

    1 month ago

    I understand your point. The goal of the Block Editor wasn’t just to replace the Classic Editor for writing posts. It was introduced to provide a consistent way to build and edit all parts of a WordPress site—pages, posts, patterns, templates, widgets, and eventually the entire site—using the same editing experience. While it may not suit every workflow, that’s the primary purpose behind its introduction.

    Thread Starter workmannen

    (@workmannen)

    1 month ago

    If this continues, I’ll move on to something else, just like everyone I know who uses WordPress is thinking about.

    john098

    (@john098)

    3 weeks, 5 days ago

    As the complex layout with blocks, columns, galleries, embeds, buttons, and patterns etc.. without coding, is concern, Gutenberg is the one of the block editor to do all these.


    If your mainly workflow, is related to only simple text posts, then I agree the Classic Editor as in this Editor we can feel much better, faster, and easier.

    Thread Starter workmannen

    (@workmannen)

    3 weeks, 5 days ago

    The normal thing is that WordPress uses the editor that most people use as their default editor, i.e. classic. As it is now, new WordPress users are stuck with the block editor and don’t understand the recommendations that WordPress is the easiest to work with. They spend time learning the block editor until someone tells them there is a better alternative.
    Compare that to the car manufacturer who ships with a trailer instead of a trunk to put things in and defends it by saying that advanced movements benefit greatly from the trailer. Switching to trunk is an add-on. Now car manufacturers aren’t so stupid, they ship with a trunk as standard and the ability to use a trailer is an add-on. That’s how it should be with WordPress too! Additionally, 90% of all updates are just for the block editor.Why not make the block editor so that it is a regular editor like classic but with a click of a button the block editor appears and you can continue writing with it. But this about hiding things so that it only appears when you move the mouse over is reprehensible. Replace hover with a button or leave everything visible. This also applies to boxes and lines in the text field itself that appear and disappear all the time, it is a distraction.

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 5 days ago by workmannen.
    Moderator Jan Dembowski

    (@jdembowski)

    Forum Moderator and Brute Squad

    3 weeks, 5 days ago

    tl;dr The current editor has been the editor for the last 7 years. It is not going away, the Classic Editor will not return except as a plugin. And as WordPress continues to develop, that plugin at some point will no longer work and will not be supported.

    Drinks coffee, so good.

    That was not short at all. More below.

    The normal thing is that WordPress uses the editor that most people use as their default editor, i.e. classic.

    I am confident that is not true at all. ☕

    Compare that to the car manufacturer who ships with a trailer instead of a trunk to put things in and defends it by saying that advanced movements benefit greatly from the trailer.

    That’s not a good comparison and a bit disingenuous. People living in urban areas may not have space for a truck, making a trailer means you don’t use the truck everyday. You hitch up the trailer when you need it or if you need it.

    The Classic Editor is the trailer you want.

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/

    The “new” block-based editor in WordPress, codenamed Gutenberg, officially launched as the default editor on December 6, 2018, with the release of WordPress 5.0. The Gutenberg plugin is not the new editor, its a plugin that lets users try out new additional features early.

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/gutenberg/

    So, tell me what’s better about Gutenberg?

    No, that’s not happening and I am closing this topic.

    Here’s why: this is not feedback. It is a blog post to complain about the (not new at all) editor in WordPress. Your premise is that you and others want to be convinced something you do not like is better. I am sorry, but that conversation ended in 2019.

    If you have issues to report to the Gutenberg team, you can raise a (valid, that is not a conversation forum) issue here.

    https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/

    If you encounter a bug that will be addressed in the next version of WordPress then the Gutenberg plugin may be for you. Most users will not need to install that at all.

    If you have a fix for an issue or recommendation for an improvement or feature in WordPress Core, you can raise a ticket here.

    https://core.trac.wordpress.org/newticket

    Again, trac is not a blog or place to complain.

    If you want to blog about how much you dislike, well, anything, feel free to use your own site instead. We have some nice software for that.

    I am now closing this open discussion topic.

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 5 days ago by Jan Dembowski. Reason: Grammar
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