• bbus72

    (@bbus72)


    I am posting here because I want to UPGRADE my installation of DEB 8 to DEB11. While this may NOT seem to be related to wordpress, it is related because I need to check the compatibility of all of my 4 websites. I own the DOT US, DOT ORG, DOT COM and DOT INFO domains of buddy dash baker, so I want to make sure that all of the plugins that I have can work with Debian 11, and PHP 7.4/8 and MYSQL8.

    Problem: I NEED a list of the plugins that work with the newer versions of PHP/SQL, and I used the “Plugin Compatibility Checker Plugin, and then made an attempt to UPGRADE OS from DEB 8 to DEB 11: The results were TERRIBLE: I tried to do the OS upgrade, did that, and then reloaded my sites, and BOOM: DEAD!

    so, How do I get a list of, or an assurance that the plugins I have will work with a DEB 11 install? (I CANT afford to sit on a older install, because they have newer programs and versions available, and I also CANT afford to take chances messing about trying to make sure they work and then upgrade the OS just to have my websites inaccessable, and then having to DOWNGRADE to DEB 8 just to get everything working again.)

    The reason for this post is to find an easier way to test compatibility, other than to try to upload it to a testing host, and then fool around with that, because these are free hosts and its just a mess to deal with. If there was a way to SWITCH the version of PHP/SQL in a WordPress Plugin, I could then test on the fly – since my domains are SELF Hosted, and Maintained, I DO NOT have a “control panel interface” as I own the server and the domains, and I wish that there was a wordpress plugin for this, as it would allow me to test things before doing an UPGRADE – Since we are dealing with a Deb 8 to 11 Upgrade, I have to backup everything, and spend a few DAYS setting up what I need, and I cant do all that, just to have the websites and wordpress inaccessable. I DO have the 5.9 version of wordpress installed :))

    Is there a way someone may be able to help me figure this one out?? All I need is a way to make sure what I have will work with DEB 11+, and I THINK I can do the rest, but this is a headache I don’t want to deal with this without some help 🙂

    Can anyone shed some light on this one? If anyone needs any other information, please let me know 🙂

    Thank You For any Help you could provide me

    Brian

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  • Thread Starter bbus72

    (@bbus72)

    Further Information:

    brian@cardinal:~$  lsb_release -a
    No LSB modules are available.
    Distributor ID:	Debian
    Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 8.11 (jessie)
    Release:	8.11
    Codename:	jessie
    
    brian@cardinal:~$ php -v
    PHP 5.6.40-0+deb8u12 (cli) (built: Jun 28 2020 09:37:30)
    Copyright (c) 1997-2016 The PHP Group
    Zend Engine v2.6.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2016 Zend Technologies
        with Zend OPcache v7.0.6-dev, Copyright (c) 1999-2016, by Zend Technologies
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    brian@cardinal:~$ mysql -V
    mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.62, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 6.3
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Wordpress Versions: 
    
    DOT US Running:   5.91  
    DOT COM Running:  5.91 
    DOT ORG Running:  5.91
    DOT INFO Running: 5.91

    All Plugins and updates applied as far as I know :)_

    Brian

    • This reply was modified 4 years ago by bbus72. Reason: added information
    • This reply was modified 4 years ago by Jan Dembowski.
    • This reply was modified 4 years ago by Jan Dembowski.
    • This reply was modified 4 years ago by Jan Dembowski.
    Moderator Jan Dembowski

    (@jdembowski)

    Forum Moderator and Brute Squad

    Moved to Fixing WordPress, this is not an Everything else WordPress topic. Also somehow the post formatting broke the CSS. Weird. I fixed that.

    How to make sure all plugins work with PHP/SQL

    You can’t. It really is a one plugin at a time exercise. Updating to whatever the developer of each plugin recommends is a good start.

    It looks like you are running and old and fully unsupported version of PHP.

    PHP 5.6.40-0+deb8u12

    I would start by backing that up and getting it to PHP 7.4.28 as a start.

    Vijay Hardaha

    (@vijayhardaha)

    Advice, if it’s a single website then close on localhost running the PHP version that you gonna use after the upgrade and then test things locally and spot errors if comes with a new PHP version, then consider an upgrade.

    You can use 7.4 for stabilities, doesn’t have to go PHP 8 if you’re unsure.

    Thread Starter bbus72

    (@bbus72)

    @jdembowski

    I have used and HAD used the php Compatibility checker Plugin to check the compatibility of ALL of the plugins on all sites. With all due respect sir:

    I WILL NOT update/upgrade/change ANYTHING unless I can be sure that for each plugin that I have in the list, there is a competent REPLACEMENT or update/upgrade for each of them.

    The Reasoning is: The Deb 8 Install works with all of the plugins that I have loaded. when I upgraded to Debian 11, and then reinstalled my websites and then tried to access the sites, I could NOT access anything – so, because I couldn’t even get to anything, I had to BLOW it AWAY, and Downgrade back to where I was – Took me weeks, because I had to undo and reinstall things to get it back to what I had before the upgrade. There are NO ways to check to see how this works, for me, because I dont have another server environment to test on, so localhosting is not possible without 2 servers. I NEED to have access to wordpress in order to login and I cant do that by blind upgrading. I even disabled these things, and still BIG mess.

    To get to PHP/MYSQL current version, and make sure I am running them, I HAVE to update to DEB11, there is NO way to change the PHP version of the server, and 5.6 works and I need to upgrade – I cant do an “in place upgrade” as this is 3 versions newer than my current version.

    Debian 11 REQUIRES you to change some of the things that you need. The last time I made an upgrade attempt it failed, and I NEED to see a list of things compatible with 7.3/7.4/8.0 and the Mysql as well – If I could SEE what works with debian 11, I could then have a better idea of what is going on BEFORE I get a blank page when trying to access sites when wordpress wont even load.

    I have the list of the output for the PHP compatibility Checker that I can post if needed. I think its the PHP version that is the issue, but I am not sure – Remember that Deb 11 does NOT even have SQL, it uses MariaDB, and I cant even access anything to troubleshoot.

    Thanks,

    Brian

    • This reply was modified 4 years ago by bbus72. Reason: added information
    Moderator Steven Stern (sterndata)

    (@sterndata)

    Volunteer Forum Moderator

    MariaDB is fully compatible with WP, and you should have no issues with PHP 7.4. 8.1 can be difficult, but 7.4 is fine.

    Thread Starter bbus72

    (@bbus72)

    Is there a way to KNOW what plugins work with PHP 7.4 WITHOUT having to redo the whole system and then find out that something crashed??? Thsts how the problems started. I want to upgrade, but need to know that what I am running will work with 7.4

    Brian

    Moderator Steven Stern (sterndata)

    (@sterndata)

    Volunteer Forum Moderator

    To know for sure, in a sense of absolute certainty? Not without trying them. But 7.4 has been out a long time and almost all plugins should work with it.

    Dion

    (@diondesigns)

    Perhaps you should consider obtaining a small VPS for a couple days. Create a virtual host with your current domain name, and use you local system’s HOSTS file to point to the VPS. After testing, get rid of the VPS and remove the entry in the HOSTS file. Many cloud-based hosts offer VPSes at hourly rates, and a couple days of testing should cost under $1 USD.

    Alternately, visit the support area for each plugin and check whether PHP compatibility info is available. If not, then post a question.

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