Good ethics?
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I would like your advice on something folks.
My new site (www.cafegeek.com/home) is based on the Kubrick template. I had so much fun playing with the changes that I’d like to design new themes for other users.
- At which point does a template based on a template become my own?
- I am happy to give credit for work that I will base mine on, what is the prefferred method?
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If we’re talking digital copyright, are we discussing specifically code, or everything? I;m sure the relevant lobby groups would argue that any use of their precious material is digital copyright with no room for fair use.
That’s why I never said it was a law. I said, “I figure that it’s a good standard to live by when making derivatives.” The “10 percent rule” is a legal standard (IOW, law), but it (obviously) does not apply to WordPress themes. I just figure that it’s a good standard to live by when making derivatives. That’s probably the most frustrating about all of this. It’s the fact no one seems to care about the post where I practically said, “this is not a legal standard for WordPress themes.” It’s the fact that most people around here fail to read the entire thread. They see one post, have an issue with it, and fly down to the reply form, passing all replies and all possible follow-up posts on the way there.
I just can’t see how you would judge 10% of a theme. Anyone want to do a write up?
Well, I don’t think I’m the only one confused on it and as someone already said, 10% for example can’t really be just a colour change can it?
Anyway this idea that you were singled out…not sure where that came from, although my comment was outright flippant, it was also done with tongue-in-cheek. I was thinking more a fully written write up rather than Kaf’s quick rough guide to theme changes – if someone builds on that and builds something more substantial it would perhaps serve as some reference. Or copy and paste it as it is into the codex?
It's the fact that most people around here fail to read the entire thread. They see one post, have an issue with it, and fly down to the reply form, passing all replies and all possible follow-up posts on the way there.I wouldn’t say most people – in fact I think quite a few people read that comment and questioned, and it’s only fair that people question it if you offer it as an answer. It coul dbe argued, and justly so, that you read too much into this “singled out” business, and took to heart. It cuts both ways mate. I dunno, I just think this become over-heated without reason, but at least it’s getting back to the topic.
What if it was to break down into categories? Say:
Flavours – sites that use an existing theme and modify the colours etc – the template and structure remain the same
Builds – as above, but with the inclusion of moderate changes to the template structure of the theme
Redesigns – almost complete overhauls, little of the original structure and design remains.
Again this sort of scale can always be argued, but it would be nice to have a general consensus on some vague scale by which a user comes in downloads a theme and knows whether he’s made a flavour, a new build, or redesign (in this example).
It coul dbe argued, and justly so, that you read too much into this “singled out” business, and took to heart.
It’s not about a single person. This frustration stems from 6 months of being very helpful here and getting almost nothing but [explicative deleted] kicked in my face.
mac, if you need a break take a break – the worst thing you can do is feel annoyed at some anonymous joe over in the land of nod. it’s not a bad idea to actually take a break. you’ll probably feel better for it. otherwise, every similr comment will come across as something snide.
i think follow your own advice, take a break and come back when you’re feeling a lot better. this is a volunteer forum, and although your commitment is very much appreciated, it shouldn’t be at the cost of your health or your sanity.
Hello all, I’m very new to this having just loaded WordPress up on my site and trying to find a theme I like. This thread has been most insightful and it appears that it has caused a lot of frustration too, but nevertheless, light has been shed, so no one should tear their hair out just yet 😉
I was not sure what the etiquette was to modifying someone else’s theme was and its a litle clearer now. Basically, I may want to change the colors and artwork on the header but leave everythig else intact for now. Is it OK to go ahead and just do this with credit and link the original designer , or does one need to seek permission, or let the designer know?
Many thanks,
Sultan
If it was released under GPL – it’s totally OK to go ahead and modify it without permission.
Informing the designer about it when you are done, is a nice gesture 🙂thanks Moshu..I searched the stle sheet for one theme I liked and saw the GPL language there..much appreciated..
Sultan
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