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  1. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    I'm new to WordPress and blogging, period. Seeking constructive critcism on design/layout; and, funtionality/usability.

  2. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

  3. bpkri
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Why not try install WordPress and see what it can do for you? Maybe you have some more precise questions after that? :) It's a bit hard to know what you're looking for.
    Hints for designs I think you can find out all over the forums here, looking at other blogs. :)

  4. Root
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    WordPress credit?

  5. bpkri
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Ah.... not that explains a bit more. Looks sweet. Though the design wastes a lot of screen space. At least over here. Only the center area of the page is used, which leaves about 3/4 of the screen unused. Looks nice, but I think you see too little and have to scroll unneccesarily much.

  6. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Root,
    The WordPress credit is located at the very bottom of the right page-- assuming this is what you mean by credit.
    URL: http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    willneea

  7. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Root,
    Should read:
    The WordPress credit is located at the very bottom of the right *scroll*-- assuming this is what you mean by credit.
    URL: http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    willneea

  8. eric
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Nice design, but personally I'd get rid of the scrolls and use the whole browser window. I dislike anything that requires me to use the mouse. But then maybe that's just me.

  9. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Eric, not arguing the point, just curious. If you dislike anything that requires you to use the mouse, how then are you able to read this comment?
    URL: http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    willneea

  10. Root
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    If someone presents a design like that I think we are entitled to nit pick It is advertised as xhtml 1.0 strict for some reason. But it isnt.

  11. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

  12. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

  13. eric
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    @willnea: started firefox from the WinXP start menu using the "special windows" and up/down keys; CTRL+D to type wordpress.org/support/ in the URL field. Scrolled down, found this topic, typed in the first few letters of the post topic ("Con") to latch onto the link; pressed enter to follow the link (yeah, I don't need to click on links anymore as long as they're text. Firefox rox). Scrolled down to read this. Look mum, no mouse! I could even have used tab to get to this text field and enter the text, but it would have been too much hassle to press tab like 30 times so I did use the mouse for that. See? I'm pragmatic, not fanatic... Clicking on "Post Message" is a simple tab and enter though, no mouse at all.
    More generally, there is always a trade-off between how much control you as a web designer retain over the look/feel/navigation of a site, and how much you allow your visitors to control for themselves - e.g. column widths etc. When someone lets me make the window as wide or narrow as I want, and navigate around it the way I want, and doesn't try to make me register or give them my email addreess, it makes me feel warm and fuzzy and I'm more likely to come back. Again, just my personal opinion.

  14. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Looks like scroll to me, just my opinion...
    started firefox from the WinXP start menu using the "special windows" and up/down keys; CTRL+D to type wordpress.org/support/ in the URL field. ****Scrolled***** down, found this topic, typed in the first few letters of the post topic ("Con") to latch onto the link; pressed enter to follow the link (yeah, I don't need to click on links anymore as long as they're text. Firefox rox). ****Scrolled***** down to read this. Look mum, no mouse! I could even have used

  15. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Okay. You scrolled without using a mouse. I've deleted "login" and "resister." Good points, all.

  16. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Well, as it turns out, I bit the bullet-- and eliminated the scrolls. Difficult decision for me. Little rough around the edges right now, but has possibilities. I can see now that it was the thing to do. I just didn't want to admit it. Thanks for the push.
    I apologize for getting out of line-- so much for ego involement...
    willneea
    http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/

  17. Root
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    If you scroll right down here
    the author and readers will notice that the layout has gone a bit wonky. Welcome to web standards coding ;)

  18. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    -- Working, more or less, on XP_IE6.0, FF0.9 & Opera7.11.
    --IE5x/win is another matter. Hugs left viewport, instead of centering-- menu breaks right.
    --Safari1.2 Not sure. It may be that the " i-capture" cache was not popped between revisions that fixed the same problem in FF.
    --IE/Mac5.2 Not tested.
    HTML/CSS are valid.
    Comments, suggestions appreciated.
    URL: http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    Thanks.
    willneea

  19. Root
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Yes but you cheated on the positioning scheme. You have abandoned your footer ;)

  20. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Hacked and now working IE5x/win. IE/Mac5.2 is working.
    On to the footer.
    Comments, suggestions appreciated.
    URL: http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    Thanks.
    willneea

  21. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Added #back-menu, only to discover several hours latter that doing so detroyed Opera7-- the problem being a miscalculation of the width. In the meantime, it seems to look okay on a Safari1.2(whatever) i-capture, including expected Mac OS difference in font rendering.
    I have also found some discrepencies of other width dimensions causing sublte rendering differences between Gecko and IE browsers. Currently attepting to correct these, and their associated hacks. Needless to say, I need a Math-101 refresher course...
    Comments, suggestions, some aspirin, and a glass of water appreciated.
    URL: http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    willneea

  22. Root
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    No math degree needed. Wherever you see borders, padding or margins all you need remember is that some browsers will add them to the width and some will deduct them. Now unless for some reason you are very tight of space doing a really intricate pixel perfect layout, the trick is to avoid adding margins, padding and borders to anything that already has the width defined like the floats. So - try and avoid if poss. With ingenuity you will see how. For example do not margin the content because its width is defined. Instead add a class .post and margin that. See what I mean?. Otherwise we are going to have to start hacking.I am following your progress dont worry if you get stuck.

  23. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 11 years ago #

    re: creating div's for margins, padding and borders on anything
    that already has the width defined
    Very peculiar--files are valid, and working locally. Fails when uploaded. However, everything jumps into place on FF if *Edit CSS* ( Web Developer extension) is checked and then unchecked.
    Popping the cache and/or reloading has no effect whatsoever.
    Going from a small to a large window seems to trigger correct rendering. Weird...
    http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    willneea

  24. Root
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    I am just wondering if the server is refreshing properly. Servers keep all the old copies. Why not delete the necessary files then ftp afresh.

  25. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Made a couple of mark-up changes. It's now working on XP_IE6.0, Moz1.6, and Opera7.5.1. *FF0.9 is the problem*-- menu breaks right...
    I'll try a new set of files...
    http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    willneea

  26. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    No, she doesn't like the fresh set of files either-- must be something in the code. I'll tinker with it...
    http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    willneea

  27. Root
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Ok. Here is the thing. In the CSS you have a class and a div both styled with the same name. .content. And the class content has a lot of padding. That is screwing the pooch. HTH.

  28. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Turns out not to be a problem with the code. Wound up stripping everything, and found an error on the source file. Needs to be tweaked, but after a cursory look is now rendering on IE, Moz, My Lady FF, and Opera. Predictably hugging the left viewport on IE5/5.5. without the box model hack to center it.
    I will be away from 7a, Tues,. July 6 until 8p, Fri., July9th.
    If I haven't driven you completly nuts by now, I'd appreciate continuing when I get back. Either way, thanks ever so much...
    http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    willneea

  29. willneea
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    I was having a bad IE5/5.5 day earlier this morning. It is predictably centering just fine *without using* the box model hack. There is a 17px vertical drop between the header and the content on IE5 personally I think this can ride as is). IE5.5 rendering same as 6.0. IE/Mac5.2 seems okay-- same for AOL7.
    Header centers, container holding content/menu breaks right, appearing to hug right viewport on Konqueror. While this could probably be fixed by anchoring it to the header, I'm not so sure it's really worth the effort?
    On the menu (all browers) there is added vertical space between the category Blogroll and the first link-- Rebecca's Pocket. Particularly obvious on IE6. Deleting the category and links, and then replacing them does not seem to help. Any suggestions?
    continuing when I get back. Either way, thanks ever so much...
    http://www.dlaakso.com/weblog/
    willneea

  30. Root
    Member
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Well maybe you need a break. Tantek Ceilks voice box hack is not necessary and is over elaborate for the issues raised here and has no bearing on centering the page in the view port at all anyway.For what it is worth I believe that a sound understanding of any one simple layout model is better than any amount of hacking and going round and round, as you, sadly seem to be doing.

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