[Plugin: TDO Mini Forms] 500 error meltdown and thoughts

redlantern
(@redlantern)

17 years, 8 months ago

Interesting progession of problems with TDO…

1st everything working fine then the “Manage” tab starts showing a blank page.. devactivating TDO temporarily restores things

2nd a few days later the Manage tab causes a 500 error

3rd a few days after than the entire wp-admin panel is a 500 error and I am forced to use FTP to rename the TDO directory in order to disable it

4th I am now in the position of having to manually activate and deactive this the TDO plugin by adding an “x” to the TDO directory name… in order to access the wp-admin panel

5th I’m so dependent on this plugin I don’t really mind the inconvenience (it makes a good forum out of WordPress- any suggestions multithreading or similar structuring???)

6th I dream of the day someone turns TDO into a sort of private messaging system so that my forum members can send private text messages to each other- rather than posting publicly to the forum

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the_dead_one
(@the_dead_one)

17 years, 8 months ago

Is this on WordPress 2.6.1 or 2.6.2? Also what other plugins are you using?

A number of users reported that after upgrading to 2.6.x TDOMF ran into conflicts with other post-based plugins. I haven’t had the chance to look into this as I’m working through a list of bug-fixes.

“Private messaging” … nice idea. I think the best way to do this would be to have a different plugin that allows you to post to specific users as if they were “categories”…. maybe. I might think about it. 🙂

moshthepitt
(@moshthepitt)

17 years, 8 months ago

I’ve been frustrated by this for days. Is there a possible solution?
I am using these plugins:
tinymyce advanced
wp-postratings
wp-supercache
wp-wall
yet-another-related-posts-pluging
plugin-central
search-everything
share-this

If I disable tdo mini forms everything works just great.
But I need to use tdo mini forms 🙁

the_dead_one
(@the_dead_one)

17 years, 8 months ago

I need more info. Do you have any error information form your host logs?

Thread Starter redlantern
(@redlantern)

17 years, 8 months ago

Sorry, but I am giving up. I spent well over 100 hours trying different combinations of plugins and different configurations before coming to the conclusion that TDO is totally unsuitable for WordPress 2.6+

It was a never ending saga of 500 errors, blank manage pages, blank plugin pages, blank widget pages, and forms that work one day and don’t work the next.

The backend is too tedious to keep recreating forms that become corrupted by various plugin combinations. No plugin has ever caused me anywhere near the grief TDO has. I gambled two weeks worth of round the clock work hoping to build a forum out of WP 2.6 and this plugin and lost. Don’t let the same thing happen to you.

Don’t get me wrong, the plugin probably works fine in earler version of WP but don’t bother if you want to build a serious WP 2.6 site around this plugin.

Thread Starter redlantern
(@redlantern)

17 years, 8 months ago

By the way the plugins, that caused the most conflicts with TDO were ACE, Headspace, Contact Form 7, and Wassup. I cannot live without Wassup and it caused the most conflicts.

Thread Starter redlantern
(@redlantern)

17 years, 8 months ago

Update: rather than throw away 2 weeks of work, I started fresh with WP 2.6.2 and TDO 11.1

Amazingly, I was done in less than an hour and all seems fine. No apparent plugin conflicts with ACE and Wassup… major crashing with Headspace (removed it)… also currently running Login redirects, Register plus, WP-Cumulus, and XML Sitemaps).

In this configuration, I did notice that 11.1 doesn’t does not allow you to order the categories for dropdowns and it seems to interfere with a random image javascript that was running okay on the same pages with with v12. These are minor things I can live with.

Another note- widget functionality ceased in WP 2.6.2/TDO 12 the instant you touched the form hacker. Certainly that was not intended? Widgets seem to work fine (be reconfigurable) in WP 2.6.2/TDO 11.1

So I am stuck with a somewhat limited/limiting version of 11.1 for now… but its stable with ACE and Wassup which are critical to my site and does what I need it to do. Not to be presumptive, but something tells me TDO 12 might have to be seriously rebuilt beginning with the major differences between v11 and v12. I for one would lose functionality to gain stabilty in every case.

Version 12 is such as tease. When it becomes stable, I’ll never have any reason to use the WP interface to publish my posts or pages.

moshthepitt
(@moshthepitt)

17 years, 8 months ago

redlantern, thanks so much. I shall give TDO v11 a try.
😀

grabuge
(@grabuge)

17 years, 8 months ago

anyone can resolve this?

Thread Starter redlantern
(@redlantern)

17 years, 8 months ago

Update: There is a actually a pretty big issue with my WP 2.62/TDO 11.1 setup… when I attempt to use more than one custom field… they all return the value of custom field #1. I have tried tweaking, reinstalling, and other tricks, but can only get results appended to the post from one custom field. Still, its stable now, even with loads of other other plugins installed.

the_dead_one
(@the_dead_one)

17 years, 8 months ago

I am at a complete loss. I’ve been tracking the problem on the TDOMF support forums here and I have a test bed of WordPress 2.6.2 with the latest dev version of TDO-Mini-Forms (which I’m refusing to release until I know this issue is resolved) plus the plugins: smiliar-posts, random-posts, recent-comment, ACE, Headspace2, Contact Form 7 and Wassup. No issues. No 500 errors.

I really need more information. I need information about how your webserver is configured, how tdo-mini-forms is configured, the actual errors reported in your host’s error-logs (any 500 error should have an entry in your hosts error-logs!!!), etc.

I did hit one 500 error that completely locked me out of my webpage, which is different to the errors you’ve reported. I checked my hosts error-logs, normally a pretty easy thing to do, and it said that there was an error in my .htaccess.

This file is used by most webservers to control the URLs and WordPress modifies it to allow it to generate fancy permalinks. For some reason, adding ACE, Headspace2, Contact Form 7, Wassup and TDO-Mini-Forms, screws up the .htaccess. The weird thing is that TDO-Mini-Forms does not modify .htaccess nor do any kind of messing with the permalink structure, unless there is some weird cross-filter thing going on…

To resolve this problem is pretty easy. On most host configurations, you can just delete the .htaccess. Then you should be able to access your WordPress blog (I also renamed all the plugins to fix it). Then I went into the WordPress admin UI and in the permalink section restored the default configuration and saved. Then reapplied my original custom peramlink settings and it regenerated the .htaccess correctly. Now everything seems to be working hunky dory.

Seriously, check your .htaccess and your host’s error-log if you’re hitting this 500 error.

Another note- widget functionality ceased in WP 2.6.2/TDO 12 the instant you touched the form hacker. Certainly that was not intended? Widgets seem to work fine (be reconfigurable) in WP 2.6.2/TDO 11.1

You mis-understand how the form hacker works. The form hacker is not dynamically generated so if you apply changes to the form hacker you freeze the form’s code. So if you later do changes to the widgets and other options, the form’s code will still be frozen to the form hacker changes.

tinymyce advanced
wp-postratings
wp-supercache
wp-wall
yet-another-related-posts-pluging
plugin-central
search-everything
share-this

I’ll try this plugins next, when I get a chance.

the_dead_one
(@the_dead_one)

17 years, 8 months ago

Update: There is a actually a pretty big issue with my WP 2.62/TDO 11.1 setup… when I attempt to use more than one custom field… they all return the value of custom field #1. I have tried tweaking, reinstalling, and other tricks, but can only get results appended to the post from one custom field. Still, its stable now, even with loads of other other plugins installed.

Make sure you set a unique title and key for each custom field. If you don’t, you’ll end up either losing all the custom field data or it overriding each other…

the_dead_one
(@the_dead_one)

17 years, 8 months ago

I’ve tried with these plugins too:

tinymyce advanced
wp-postratings
wp-supercache
wp-wall
yet-another-related-posts-pluging
plugin-central
search-everything
share-this

No issue. Will try and roll back tdo-mini-forms to the current official version and see if thats the cause.

the_dead_one
(@the_dead_one)

17 years, 8 months ago

Tried with the last official release tdo-mini-forms v0.12.3. I’m seeing no issues with all plugins enabled.

I’ll try and create a new WP 2.6.2 blog and try all the plugins again. But that is the last thing I can try and do.

the_dead_one
(@the_dead_one)

17 years, 8 months ago

I tried creating a brand new completely clean WP2.6.2 with all plugins. No issue. The only thing left to try, is a previous version of WordPress and then upgrade to WP2.6.2.

moshthepitt
(@moshthepitt)

17 years, 8 months ago

I think I have the solution 😀
I am hosted by 1and1 and after getting them to work on it this is what I got back:

It seems that the plugin is not compatible with php 4 which is the
current version running in your package. I have tried to parse it with
php 5 and the error has gone away. Kindly edit the .htaccess file of
the
application then add the following code in the line.

AddHandler x-mapp-PHP5 .php

You may also need to turn on this setting with php.ini. Open notepad in
your PC then add the following line. Then save it as php.ini in all
format then upload it in the home directory of your site.

allow_url_fopen = On
allow_url_include = On

By default this setting is disabled in php 5. It might be possible this
settings is required in your application.

I changed my .htaccess and now everything seems to be working just fine.