• Resolved Howdy_McGee

    (@howdy_mcgee)


    These WordPress forums are desperately in need for an updates… Here’s some bugs that have been around for a long time but…

    I can’t edit any of my posted questions. It just redirects me back to the support section. There’s no feedback as to why it just does it.

    I can’t reply to my posted question. It just redirects me to the same place and appends #postform to the URL. Again, not helpful feedback and completely broken.

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  • Moderator James Huff

    (@macmanx)

    What you’re describing is what happens when the spam filter catches a post, not a bug.

    It’s why we, as volunteers, spend hours a day combing through a queue overflowing with spam to rescue false-positives like yours.

    Sorry for the trouble!

    Thread Starter Howdy_McGee

    (@howdy_mcgee)

    Thanks for your reply, I figured it had to go through some sort of approval process but wasn’t entirely sure. It’s just frustrating when there’s nothing to indicate what’s going on or why it’s happening. Would it possible to maybe, instead of redirecting to the same page or back to the support homepage to have it say “Your post is awaiting approval” or something generic?

    I feel like every action should give some sort of feedback to the user whether it’s explicit ( awaiting approval message ) or implicit ( Edit redirect to editing post page ). Otherwise, it looks and feels like a bug.

    Moderator James Huff

    (@macmanx)

    Would it possible to maybe, instead of redirecting to the same page or back to the support homepage to have it say “Your post is awaiting approval” or something generic?

    Ideally, yes, but not for an anti-spam system. The trick there is to make then *think* they successfully posted, so they don’t keep flooding the forum.

    Thread Starter Howdy_McGee

    (@howdy_mcgee)

    Which would still technically work right? If a bot or myself submits a post it *does* get submitted, just placed into a mod queue. It’s whenever a user click the Edit or Reply button while it’s still in queue would a message be displayed that it’s being processed versus the redirection. It seems at the point in the process redirection is meaningless to try and fool spam and the message would only benefit the user.

    It could be that I’m oversimplifying the issue.

    Moderator James Huff

    (@macmanx)

    Which would still technically work right? If a bot or myself submits a post it *does* get submitted, just placed into a mod queue.

    That’s exactly what happens now.

    It’s whenever a user click the Edit or Reply button while it’s still in queue would a message be displayed that it’s being processed versus the redirection.

    No, because then they could easily build a pass/fail test into the bot.

    It seems at the point in the process redirection is meaningless to try and fool spam and the message would only benefit the user.

    It’s very meaningful to try and fool the spam bot. If they think it got in, they won’t send more. If they think it failed, they will just keep sending in more until it works.

    At which point, again as volunteers, we’d look at a spam queue of 5,000 spam messages in 6 hours (this is not a joke, it has happened) wherein there are probably maybe 20 legitimate false-positives, and just decide to delete everything (even the false-positives), because we’re all volunteers and no one has time for that.

    Now, when you’re caught as a false positive, there’s a tiny inconvenience to you, but that tiny inconvenience means we also have time to rescue you from the spam queue and help other people.

    In short, we will not be changing this behavior.

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