• Resolved gamicord

    (@gamicord)


    Hello Sir,
    It’s surprising to me that I can’t display my Recipes.

    1.) Is there shortcodes which I can use to display my Recipes on specific pages?
    2.) How can I have a dedicated Recipe Page?
    3.) I enabled Recipe to show on Homepage, but it didn’t show. Why is that? or is there something extra that I need to do?

    Regards

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  • Plugin Author WP Delicious

    (@wpdelicious)

    Hi @gamicord,

    The recipes can be displayed on your site. You can check the demo here.

    Please refer to the answers below:

    1. We don’t have shortcodes available for recipes. The shortcode is only available for Recipe Search and Surprise Me feature. The recipes are displayed on the specific page templates of recipe taxonomies and recipe index.

    If you want to add recipes to a specific page, you can use Recipes by Taxonomy or Handpicked Recipes blocks.

    2. The above answers this. By default, all your recipes are displayed on your recipe index page. The URL is yoursite.com/recipe/ Here’s the preview.

    3. When you enable the recipes to show on the homepage, it will display only if the Homepage is set to ‘Latest Post’ under Settings > Reading. If you have set the Blog page, it will then display on the blog page.

    Thank you.

    Thread Starter gamicord

    (@gamicord)

    Thank you for your reply. The only thing is that the reply saddens me and makes me feel frustrated.

    1.) Whenever I mention shortcodes, you guys act as if shortcodes are harbingers of doom that will destroy your plugin.

    Yet, it is your lack of shortcodes that make your plugin limited and unusable for a lot of people. Many people still depend on Page Builders like Elementor, Divi and so on.

    Shortcodes help such people to break Delicious Recipe’s Static Template into different movable parts, and place them in any order and place that they choose.

    But you treat the matter of shortcodes as if you dread them like the COVId-19, Ebola and HIV viruses. Why is that?

    The other two competitors have this shortcode we are asking for.

    See here– https://help.bootstrapped.ventures/article/83-recipe-shortcodes

    and here– https://docs.cooked.pro/article/15-template-shortcodes

    So, why do you make it look like we don’t understand what we are asking?

    Please, give us our shortcode, and let us not have another exchange on this matter.

    3.) I am displeased with this answer:

    When you enable the recipes to show on the homepage, it will display only if the Homepage is set to ‘Latest Post’ under Settings > Reading. If you have set the Blog page, it will then display on the blog page.

    And this answer is where you should have already seen that something serious and improper is wrong with your Model.

    I don’t want my Homepage to show my Latest Posts. I want my Homepage to be a Static Page, and I want to be able to place my Recipes on a section of it.

    Don’t force me to change that preference because I want to use your plugin.

    It is you that should work on your plugin and make it flexible. Your Model has this parochial and narrow mindset attached to it, and I don’t know why you just can’t see that such model is a crappy and narrow-minded Model?

    When you joined WordPress, weren’t you coached, that the idea and rationale behind WordPress is the idea of freedom and flexibility and liberty to choose?

    Why do you now come up with a Strategy that constrains? And you still can’t see that something is wrong with whatever strategy you think you have?

    Regards

    Plugin Author WP Delicious

    (@wpdelicious)

    Hi @gamicord,

    1. We haven’t said that we won’t offer the shortcode feature. We will consider it if other users also request this feature. Till now, we have only received the request from you. We will surely consider it for the future.

    We already have a list of things we want to implement in the plugin and we are already working on it.

    If shortcodes are one of your needs, and there are other plugins that offer them, you can consider using them. The shortcode functionality is not on our priority list at the moment.

    Blocks are the future and WordPress encourages it. So, we decide to go with the blocks. Many of our customers are using them already.

    3. When some themes display the blog on the homepage along with other sections, they have done some coding to pull the latest posts. Different themes have done in a different manner. It is not possible to pull the recipes in that by default. The query needs to be modified.

    You can reach out to the theme developers and ask them how you can display the recipes in the blog section when you have a static page.

    Thank you.

    Thread Starter gamicord

    (@gamicord)

    There is a lot of misunderstanding here, which I will try to see how we can come to a middle ground.

    1.) Settled: Shortcodes are coming in the future.

    2.)

    Blocks are the future and WordPress encourages it.

    This statement is correct, and I know it too.

    But have you ever asked yourself–Why Page Builders like Elementor, Divi, WP Bakery, Visual Composer etc succeeded?

    As an example to this answer, Elementor wows and impresses us with two functions apart from its 90+ widgets.

    These functions are Dynamic Tags and Template Builder. These two visible and evident functions, are the major reason why Page Builder succeeded–apart from the fact that they help us build whole websites without writing a single line of code.

    a) Dynamic Tags helps us to add Dynamic Content to Posts and Pages, then Posts and Pages are automatically updated with current relevant content.

    b) Template Builder helps us build Archive, Single Page, Single Post, WooCommerce , Footer, Section and Pop up Templates that we can use across our websites.

    This Theme Building/Template Builder functionality is useful because we may not always like the Template look of our Theme. So this functionality helps us create the kind of display we like for our Archives and Single Pages.

    To do this, the Page Builder like Elementor for example, needs to be able to see the data in the Custom Post Type(Delicious Recipes), and pull it into the Design.

    I’ve spoken to Stackable Blocks, Kadence Blocks, Co-Blocks, Ultimate Blocks, Gutentor, and Getwid Blocks. None of them remotely have these Dynamic Tags and Theme Builder functionality on a Road Map.

    So you must understand Why Elementor is too useful to me.

    But in the absence of Dynamic Tags functionality in Blocks, Elementor is only able to display the contents of those Blocks through shortcodes.

    I think it is from here that you should see that I’m trying to have a piece of both worlds– display what Blocks display, and express them dynamically through shortcodes inserted into Elementor Page Builder, or any other Page Builder with Dynamic Tags functionality.

    Do you understand this part now?

    3.)

    When some themes display the blog on the homepage along with other sections, they have done some coding to pull the latest posts. Different themes have done in a different manner. It is not possible to pull the recipes in that by default. The query needs to be modified.

    Elementor has a Widget called Post Widget. So when we design with Elementor(lazily {LOL}), we can put anything anywhere. No theme modification or query modification of any sort.

    Elementor is simply a Drag-and-Drop Website Design Tool that helps you place anything anywhere.

    You can pull default WordPress Posts and any Registered Custom Post Type that you have on your website into any section of your page with this tool.

    Suppose you have a shortcode called [delicious-recipes] which shows all recipes, and it has parameters like Order by, per row, per column, per page, etc, I could simply just place it anywhere in a section of my page using Elementor Post Widget.

    I created Recipes, used Elementor Post widget and selected Post Source as Recipes. Here are the Recipes displayed on my website as Posts— https://dml.truesauce.com.ng/cpt/

    We wouldn’t need code, or theme modification, or query modification, or anything of the sort to place anything anywhere, if there’s a shortcode called [delicious-recipes].

    Do you now understand me?
    Regards

    Plugin Author WP Delicious

    (@wpdelicious)

    Hi @gamicord,

    We do agree that are certain restrictions of Blocks.

    We are aware of the Posts widget where you can select the CPT. It only pulls the basic information. The features like recipe information and recipe keys are not pulled.

    As communicated earlier, we do have plans to release Elementor widgets in the future.

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