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 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
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   reply to: [[Autoptimize] Image options > Shortpixel](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/image-options-shortpixel/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [6 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/image-options-shortpixel/#post-12226123)
 * Hi Frank,
 * In my opinion, it’s good practice (optimization wise) to minimize outside dependencies
   like that, because even with big providers like Google you can sometimes encounter
   slowness or non-responsiveness. Of course, you have made it optional, which is
   good.
 * I think the critical issue here (in this case) is that i was unaware of it and
   the option was off until the client saw a notice in the backend, explored the
   option, and apparently enabled it. However, when i went in to check, there was
   a yellow notice box warning that there were no more Shortpixel credits available(
   or something like that) – so basically the feature was broken in some way and
   that’s probably why it was really really slow to load (probably timing out or
   something).
 * The client had no idea that some relationship (apparently) had to be established
   with Shortpixel in order to use the feature, and they were not aware that it 
   would break things if they simply checked the option and left it at that. This
   is definitely not user friendly.
 * AO has always been impeccable, but i think this hurts its reputation.
 * Take care,
    Shanna
 *   Forum: [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/reviews/)
    In reply to:
   [[Photo Gallery, Sliders, Proofing and Themes - NextGEN Gallery] All marketing, crappy product – does not even follow good coding practices](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/all-marketing-crappy-product-does-not-even-follow-good-coding-practices/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/all-marketing-crappy-product-does-not-even-follow-good-coding-practices/#post-10939591)
 * Item no. 1 is not resolved
 * Item no. 2 is resolved
 * Item no. 3 is not resolved
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] Preview still has problems](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/preview-still-has-problems/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/preview-still-has-problems/#post-10590640)
 * I was just trying it again and thought that the preview was hanging, but didn’t
   close the window and eventually it did work – just took a long time, maybe 10
   seconds. I wasn’t expecting it to be so long so wasn’t waiting long enough.
 * I believe with an earlier version it really was hanging, but not sure i’m seeing
   evidence of that now. Will let you know if it actually hangs any more.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] Gutenberg does not play nicely with code editor](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/gutenberg-does-not-play-nicely-with-code-editor/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/gutenberg-does-not-play-nicely-with-code-editor/#post-10590623)
 * Here’s how you can reproduce what i’m talking about.
 * Open up the Sample Page in Gutenberg. Switch to the code editor. Insert blank
   lines between the paragraphs and blockquotes. I always put space between blocks
   to make it easier to read when i’m editing.
 * Now simply click the preview or update button and watch that space get removed.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] Gutenberg does not play nicely with code editor](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/gutenberg-does-not-play-nicely-with-code-editor/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/gutenberg-does-not-play-nicely-with-code-editor/#post-10582069)
 * Hi Marius –
 * I think the general concept of using a classic editor block as the default is
   a good one, but the implementation is less than ideal. There would probably be
   a lot fewer complaints if all the functionality of the classic editor (with some
   exceptions) remained available when it’s being used in a block – notably the 
   ability to insert images (including in the code editor).
 * Having GB block wrappers show up in the code editor is not a show stopper, but
   losing whitespace creates a significant usability problem.
 * I’m not happy with the current state of Gutenberg because it gets hugely in the
   way of productivity. What it would take for me to adopt it is for all of the 
   current functionality of the classic editor to remain available and for blocks
   to be optionally available as extra functionality for quickly creating more complex
   content – using Gutenberg only as a content templating system and not trying 
   to shoehorn traditional word processing functionality into blocks.
 * For me the concept of using a block to basically just create an HTML tag is ridiculously
   dysfunctional. Using blocks for headings, paragraphs, blockquotes, and lists 
   is overkill and inferior to traditional ways of inserting such content.
 * There may be a good case for using image blocks because it makes possible separate
   instances of image meta data like captions, but removing word-processor-style
   image insertion breaks backward compatiility.
 * I concede however that it may be better functionality to create and manipulate
   compound tags like tables using blocks.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
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   reply to: [[Gutenberg] Preview still has problems](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/preview-still-has-problems/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/preview-still-has-problems/#post-10579836)
 * I’m not using any browser extensions.
 * I’ve noticed from time to time that “generating preview” hangs like this, but
   most times it seems to work. Maybe it’s just a timing problem? (not waiting long
   enough for the save to complete or something…)
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] Leave page / stay on page glitch](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/leave-page-stay-on-page-glitch/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/leave-page-stay-on-page-glitch/#post-10577559)
 * Hi Marius,
 * I tried this again and switching from visual to code editor is no longer causing
   the notice, however i do still get it when i open post attributes and open the
   dropdown list to look at it (without selecting anything). Then when i try to 
   leave the page, without having made any changes, i will get the notice popup.
 * Windows 10 x64 with Firefox 54
 *   Forum: [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/reviews/)
    In reply to:
   [[Gutenberg] The real problem with Gutenberg: visual vs verbal thinking](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/the-real-problem-with-gutenberg-visual-vs-verbal-thinking/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/the-real-problem-with-gutenberg-visual-vs-verbal-thinking/#post-10577213)
 * [@catchlight](https://wordpress.org/support/users/catchlight/) – Yeh, i didn’t
   notice the stars feature and wondered about that afterward. How i would rate 
   GB in the big picture really depends on the politics of implementation more than
   how it functions at the moment, which seems somewhat unpolished but will probably
   improve. Thinking about this now, although i have complaints about shortcomings
   i will still give it 5 stars because it’s clear that this is a big challenge 
   and the developers are (let’s presume) trying really hard to find common ground
   among users.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] Will posts written with old editor get mangled?](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/will-posts-written-with-old-editor-get-mangled/)
 *  [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/will-posts-written-with-old-editor-get-mangled/#post-10577041)
 * The only problem that i’ve found is if you’re using the code editor Gutenberg
   removes some whitespace, making it harder to read. The visual editor seems fine.
   But this little inconvenience does not in any way destroy your pre-existing content,
   as long as you don’t convert it to blocks (my experience with that was not very
   good).
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] permalink edit is missing](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/permalink-edit-is-missing/)
 *  [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/permalink-edit-is-missing/#post-10577023)
 * I just posted on this, not seeing the present post. This is definitely a hidden
   feature, not something that i’d ever have found without being told where to look.
   I’m wondering what was wrong with where it is in pre-GB WordPress?
 * Also, for the developers, if you invoke this feature when there’s a message bar
   at the top of the page that bar partially covers the permalink and completely
   covers the edit button (desktop, about 1200 px wide).
 * Also, when i first clicked on the edit (permalink) button, the whole thing disappeared
   and i had to click the title again. Ah… now i see that it seems to be intended
   to be hidden as soon as you focus anywhere else, although i didn’t think that
   i had done that.
 * And finally – this is quite problematic – when i finally get the permalink to
   edit it is URL encoded, so i cannot actually edit it but instead have to type
   or paste in the whole permalink (it may work passably with Roman characters but
   not in other alphabets like Cyrillic, Chinese, etc.)
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] Gutenberg does not play nicely with code editor](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/gutenberg-does-not-play-nicely-with-code-editor/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/gutenberg-does-not-play-nicely-with-code-editor/#post-10577006)
 * More… I just tried putting the code into a custom HTML block and it remains as
   i put it, without getting changed by the editor. Maybe if the editor is set to
   the code editor the default block type could be custom HTML instead of Classic?
   Something to think about.
 * Something is quirky here though, because after i’ve created some code in a custom
   HTML block, if i remove the block tags then the block reverts to Classic, and
   after that my code does not get modified when saving of switching between code
   and visual. Not very consistent behavior.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] Question on “Classic” Block](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/question-on-classic-block/)
 *  [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/question-on-classic-block/#post-10576998)
 * I have a similar question, as it appears that the aforementioned backward compatibility
   actually does not exist. With Gutenberg in a Classic block you can no longer 
   add media the old way but instead have to switch to visual editing, add the image
   at the end of the text, then switch to code editing and move it where you want.
   This is not how it happens now (pre-Gutenberg) in the code editor, where all 
   you had to do is click the add media button and insert the image where you want
   it.
 * Not trying to hijack this post, just correcting the backward compatibility comment
   above. It would be nice to have this fixed, so we don’t lose long-standing functionality.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] legacy content in code editor is a mess](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/legacy-content-in-code-editor-is-a-mess/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/legacy-content-in-code-editor-is-a-mess/#post-10576655)
 * My apologies … looks like the ultimate cause of this is that the WordPress draft
   privacy page is all smushed together out of the box, unlike the sample or hello
   world pages. The problem does not seem to be Gutenberg.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] legacy content in code editor is a mess](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/legacy-content-in-code-editor-is-a-mess/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/legacy-content-in-code-editor-is-a-mess/#post-10576619)
 * Oops… It seems that the problem actually still exists, but if you simply switch
   to the visual editor then switch back to the code editor then the page is a lot
   more readable. The smushing together of everything seems to only happen when 
   WP converts a page to Gutenberg, so this is probably not a big deal as long as
   there’s a way to fix it (although just how to fix it is not obvious).
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Gutenberg] Leave page / stay on page glitch](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/leave-page-stay-on-page-glitch/)
 *  Thread Starter [nelsonbase](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nelsonbase/)
 * (@nelsonbase)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/leave-page-stay-on-page-glitch/#post-10576439)
 * another example… i went in to edit the hello world page, switched from the code
   editor to the visual editor, then went to leave the editor page and again got
   the “this page is asking you…” notice
 * no changes of any kind were made to the content

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