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 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Hummingbird Performance - Cache & Page Speed Optimization for Core Web Vitals | Critical CSS | Minify CSS | Defer CSS Javascript | CDN] PHP memory limit error](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-memory-limit-error/)
 *  Thread Starter [markmont](https://wordpress.org/support/users/markmont/)
 * (@markmont)
 * [2 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-memory-limit-error/#post-17182458)
 * We’ve done the steps above and so far Hummingbird is working. We’ve gone from
   two files in wp-content/uploads/hummingbird-assets/ about an hour ago to xxx 
   files right now, and the number is continuing to grow.
 * We originally had this problem with Hummingbird 3.5.0 and disabled the plugin
   until we could investigate. But then Hummingbird 3.6.0 came out, we upgraded,
   and everything worked fine for over two weeks, until we encountered the problem
   again and posted here in the forums. So although everything is looking better
   right now, we’re going to wait until the end of the month before considering 
   the issue resolved on our end. Feel free to close this forum post in the meantime,
   if you like.
 * Thanks again for your time and work in taking a look at this for us and flagging
   FS_METHOD being set to ssh2 as an issue and suggesting that we reset Hummingbird
   Asset Optimization.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Hummingbird Performance - Cache & Page Speed Optimization for Core Web Vitals | Critical CSS | Minify CSS | Defer CSS Javascript | CDN] PHP memory limit error](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-memory-limit-error/)
 *  Thread Starter [markmont](https://wordpress.org/support/users/markmont/)
 * (@markmont)
 * [2 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-memory-limit-error/#post-17181261)
 * Hi, Adam — thanks for the very helpful reply. You are correct that the wp-content
   folder is not writable for security reasons, but within that folder, the uploads,
   wphb-cache, and wphb-logs folders are writable and within the uploads folder,
   the hummingbird-assets folder is also writable (114291149 below is the user ID
   that the web server runs as). The timestamp on the directory is from when we 
   briefly re-enabled Hummingbird for testing yesterday, showing that Hummingbird
   did something there, but there are only two files in the directory (I expected
   many more) and the files were created more than a month ago.
 *     ```wp-block-code
       $ pwd
       /.../web/wp-content
       $ ls -ld uploads/hummingbird-assets/
       drwxr-xr-x. 2 114291149 apache 421888 Nov  6 12:36 uploads/hummingbird-assets/
       $ ls -l uploads/hummingbird-assets/
       total 161
       -rw-r--r--. 1 114291149 apache  59152 Oct  6 12:58 0af8e64a2b79d2097b64333c762b8ad1.css
       -rw-r--r--. 1 114291149 apache 104516 Oct  6 12:58 a0b6bdbec23ca11530095bba8b645ba2.css
       $
       ```
   
 * When investigating today, I found that the total size of the website is 26 GB
   and there is only 3.6 GB space remaining in the filesystem quota. Just in case
   Hummingbird was trying to generate more than 3 GB of assets, I’m having the filesystem
   quota increased today (25 additional GB of space added, to give us 28 GB free
   space), we’ll reactivate Hummingbird, reset Asset Optimization, and then we’ll
   re-test things. We have not seen any out of disk space errors, though — just 
   PHP memory limit exceeded errors.
 * FS_METHOD is set to ‘ssh2′ in wp-config.php. There are no credentials in that
   file, database, or elsewhere — the ssh-sftp-updater-support plugin prompts for
   credentials when updating plugins and themes (wp-content and the plugin and themes
   sub-folders are not writable by the web server for security reasons). Since we
   only need this for updating WordPress core, plugins, and themes (and we don’t
   need to do those things right now), we’ll comment out this line in wp-config.
   php so that WordPress’ get_filesystem_method function will return ‘direct’, and
   see if that helps.
 * Here are responses for the other things you listed:
    - _conflicts with other JS/CSS optimization tools/features (e.g. other similar
      plugisn) on site_ — there are no other optimization plugins installed. We 
      did originally use WP Fastest Cache before we switched to Hummingbird, but
      WP Fastested cache was deactivated and removed.
    - _some unusual or misconfigured page builder_ — there is no page builder (such
      as Divi or Elementor) installed. We’re using Gutenberg.
    - _issues (related to access permissions or conflict with other plugins) with
      correct handling of data in DB_ — we’ll see if increasing disk quota, commenting
      out the FS_METHOD define, and resetting Hummingbird Asset Optimization fixes
      things. I’m not aware of any plugins that would conflict (you have a list 
      from our Site Health report), but I’ll keep an eye out for the possibility
      and we may try temporarily disabling other plugins to see if the problem goes
      away.
    - _incorrectly functioning cron or action scheduler_ — `wp cron test` returns“
      Success: WP-Cron spawning is working as expected.” and things such as version
      checks, upgrade checks, and expired transient deletions are all things we 
      have observed to be working.
    - _sometimes it may also be due to server-side cache that’s either malfunctioning
      or not fully/properly integrated with site itself_ — the only server-side 
      cache is Hummingbird itself (no Varnish, no Redis or other object cache, and
      no other page cache plugin) although we do have the Cloudflare integration
      for Hummingbird configured and the site is behind Cloudflare.
 * To summarize, our plan for right now is to do the following later today:
    1. Increase the disk quota substantially (add another 25 GB space so there will
       be 28 GB free space in total)
    2. Temporarily comment out the FS_METHOD define in wp-config.php
    3. Reactivate Hummingbird
    4. Reset Hummingbird Asset Optimization
    5. See if the problem happens again
 * If I missed anything, got something wrong, or there is something else you can
   think of, please let me know. Thanks again for all your help on this, we really
   appreciate it!
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Hummingbird Performance - Cache & Page Speed Optimization for Core Web Vitals | Critical CSS | Minify CSS | Defer CSS Javascript | CDN] PHP memory limit error](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-memory-limit-error/)
 *  Thread Starter [markmont](https://wordpress.org/support/users/markmont/)
 * (@markmont)
 * [2 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-memory-limit-error/#post-17179349)
 * Hi, Patrick, thanks for your help!
 * Hummingbird > Assets Optimization shows 28,635 assets. But every time the team
   tried to switch it to Manual it would crash.
 * Orphan data in Hummingbird > Advanced Tools > Plugin health is only 35.
 * Here is the Site Health information, with some sensitive details replaced with“…”
 *     ```wp-block-code
       ### wp-core ###
   
       version: 6.3.2
       site_language: en_US
       user_language: en_US
       timezone: America/Detroit
       permalink: /%year%/%monthnum%/%postname%/
       https_status: true
       multisite: false
       user_registration: 0
       blog_public: 1
       default_comment_status: closed
       environment_type: production
       user_count: 9
       dotorg_communication: true
   
       ### wp-paths-sizes ###
   
       wordpress_path: /.../web
       wordpress_size: 484.86 MB (508414756 bytes)
       uploads_path: /.../web/wp-content/uploads
       uploads_size: 6.24 GB (6703769157 bytes)
       themes_path: /.../web/wp-content/themes
       themes_size: 9.13 MB (9572105 bytes)
       plugins_path: /.../web/wp-content/plugins
       plugins_size: 45.35 MB (47556034 bytes)
       database_size: 238.73 MB (250329660 bytes)
       total_size: 7.00 GB (7519641712 bytes)
   
       ### wp-dropins (1) ###
   
       advanced-cache.php: true
   
       ### wp-active-theme ###
   
       name: Michigan Creative WP theme (creative-wp-theme)
       version: 1.0
       author: Michigan Creative
       author_website: (undefined)
       parent_theme: none
       theme_features: menus, widgets-block-editor, custom-logo, title-tag, post-thumbnails
       theme_path: /.../web/wp-content/themes/creative-wp-theme
       auto_update: Disabled
   
       ### wp-plugins-active (14) ###
   
       Advanced Custom Fields PRO: version: 6.2.1.1, author: WP Engine (latest version: 6.2.2), Auto-updates disabled
       Broken Link Checker: version: 2.2.3, author: WPMU DEV, Auto-updates disabled
       Enable Media Replace: version: 4.1.4, author: ShortPixel, Auto-updates disabled
       GTranslate: version: 3.0.4, author: Translate AI Multilingual Solutions, Auto-updates disabled
       Hummingbird: version: 3.6.0, author: WPMU DEV, Auto-updates disabled
       Native PHP Sessions for WordPress: version: 1.4.1, author: Pantheon, Auto-updates disabled
       Redirection: version: 5.3.10, author: John Godley, Auto-updates disabled
       Site Kit by Google: version: 1.111.1, author: Google, Auto-updates enabled
       SSH SFTP Updater Support: version: 0.8.5, author: TerraFrost, David Anderson + Team Updraft, Auto-updates disabled
       UMich OIDC Login: version: 1.2.0, author: Regents of the University of Michigan, Auto-updates disabled
       University of Michigan: Events: version: 1.3.2, author: U-M: Digital, Auto-updates disabled
       User Login History: version: 2.1.2, author: Er Faiyaz Alam, Auto-updates disabled
       WP All Import Pro: version: 4.8.5, author: Soflyy, Auto-updates disabled
       Yoast Duplicate Post: version: 4.5, author: Enrico Battocchi & Team Yoast, Auto-updates disabled
   
       ### wp-media ###
   
       image_editor: WP_Image_Editor_Imagick
       imagick_module_version: 1692
       imagemagick_version: ImageMagick 6.9.12-97 Q16 x86_64 18022 https://legacy.imagemagick.org
       imagick_version: 3.7.0
       file_uploads: File uploads is turned off
       post_max_size: 16M
       upload_max_filesize: 16M
       max_effective_size: 16 MB
       max_file_uploads: 20
       imagick_limits:
       	imagick::RESOURCETYPE_AREA: 125 GB
       	imagick::RESOURCETYPE_DISK: 9.2233720368548E+18
       	imagick::RESOURCETYPE_FILE: 3072
       	imagick::RESOURCETYPE_MAP: 62 GB
       	imagick::RESOURCETYPE_MEMORY: 31 GB
       	imagick::RESOURCETYPE_THREAD: 1
       	imagick::RESOURCETYPE_TIME: 9.2233720368548E+18
       imagemagick_file_formats: 3FR, 3G2, 3GP, AAI, AI, APNG, ART, ARW, AVI, AVS, BGR, BGRA, BGRO, BIE, BMP, BMP2, BMP3, BRF, CAL, CALS, CANVAS, CAPTION, CIN, CIP, CLIP, CMYK, CMYKA, CR2, CR3, CRW, CUR, CUT, DATA, DCM, DCR, DCX, DDS, DFONT, DJVU, DNG, DOT, DPX, DXT1, DXT5, EPDF, EPI, EPS, EPS2, EPS3, EPSF, EPSI, EPT, EPT2, EPT3, ERF, EXR, FAX, FILE, FITS, FLV, FRACTAL, FTP, FTS, G3, G4, GIF, GIF87, GRADIENT, GRAY, GRAYA, GROUP4, GV, H, HALD, HDR, HISTOGRAM, HRZ, HTM, HTML, HTTP, HTTPS, ICB, ICO, ICON, IIQ, INFO, INLINE, IPL, ISOBRL, ISOBRL6, J2C, J2K, JBG, JBIG, JNG, JNX, JP2, JPC, JPE, JPEG, JPG, JPM, JPS, JPT, JSON, K25, KDC, LABEL, M2V, M4V, MAC, MAGICK, MAP, MASK, MAT, MATTE, MEF, MIFF, MKV, MNG, MONO, MOV, MP4, MPC, MPEG, MPG, MRW, MSL, MSVG, MTV, MVG, NEF, NRW, NULL, ORF, OTB, OTF, PAL, PALM, PAM, PANGO, PATTERN, PBM, PCD, PCDS, PCL, PCT, PCX, PDB, PDF, PDFA, PEF, PES, PFA, PFB, PFM, PGM, PGX, PICON, PICT, PIX, PJPEG, PLASMA, PNG, PNG00, PNG24, PNG32, PNG48, PNG64, PNG8, PNM, POCKETMOD, PPM, PREVIEW, PS, PS2, PS3, PSB, PSD, PTIF, PWP, RADIAL-GRADIENT, RAF, RAS, RAW, RGB, RGBA, RGBO, RGF, RLA, RLE, RMF, RW2, SCR, SCT, SFW, SGI, SHTML, SIX, SIXEL, SPARSE-COLOR, SR2, SRF, STEGANO, SUN, SVG, SVGZ, TEXT, TGA, THUMBNAIL, TIFF, TIFF64, TILE, TIM, TTC, TTF, TXT, UBRL, UBRL6, UIL, UYVY, VDA, VICAR, VID, VIDEO, VIFF, VIPS, VST, WBMP, WEBM, WEBP, WMF, WMV, WMZ, WPG, X, X3F, XBM, XC, XCF, XPM, XPS, XV, XWD, YCbCr, YCbCrA, YUV
       gd_version: 2.3.3
       gd_formats: GIF, JPEG, PNG, WebP, BMP, AVIF, XPM
       ghostscript_version: not available
   
       ### wp-server ###
   
       server_architecture: Linux 4.18.0-477.21.1.el8_8.x86_64 x86_64
       httpd_software: Apache
       php_version: 8.1.24 64bit
       php_sapi: apache2handler
       max_input_variables: 1000
       time_limit: 30
       memory_limit: 512M
       max_input_time: 60
       upload_max_filesize: 16M
       php_post_max_size: 16M
       curl_version: 7.61.1 OpenSSL/1.1.1k
       suhosin: false
       imagick_availability: true
       pretty_permalinks: true
       htaccess_extra_rules: true
       current: 2023-11-06T17:28:49+00:00
       utc-time: Monday, 06-Nov-23 17:28:49 UTC
       server-time: 2023-11-06T12:28:48-05:00
   
       ### wp-database ###
   
       extension: mysqli
       server_version: 8.0.32
       client_version: mysqlnd 8.1.24
       max_allowed_packet: 268435456
       max_connections: 700
   
       ### wp-constants ###
   
       WP_HOME: undefined
       WP_SITEURL: undefined
       WP_CONTENT_DIR: /.../web/wp-content
       WP_PLUGIN_DIR: /.../web/wp-content/plugins
       WP_MEMORY_LIMIT: 40M
       WP_MAX_MEMORY_LIMIT: 512M
       WP_DEBUG: false
       WP_DEBUG_DISPLAY: true
       WP_DEBUG_LOG: false
       SCRIPT_DEBUG: false
       WP_CACHE: true
       CONCATENATE_SCRIPTS: undefined
       COMPRESS_SCRIPTS: undefined
       COMPRESS_CSS: undefined
       WP_ENVIRONMENT_TYPE: Undefined
       WP_DEVELOPMENT_MODE: undefined
       DB_CHARSET: utf8
       DB_COLLATE: undefined
   
       ### wp-filesystem ###
   
       wordpress: not writable
       wp-content: not writable
       uploads: writable
       plugins: not writable
       themes: not writable
   
       ### google-site-kit ###
   
       version: 1.111.1
       php_version: 8.1.24
       wp_version: 6.3.2
       reference_url: https://diversity.umich.edu
       amp_mode: no
       site_status: connected-site
       user_status: not authenticated
       verification_status: not-verified
       connected_user_count: 2
       active_modules: site-verification, search-console, analytics, analytics-4, pagespeed-insights
       recoverable_modules: none
       required_scopes:
       	openid: â•
       	https://www.googleapis.com/auth/userinfo.profile: â•
       	https://www.googleapis.com/auth/userinfo.email: â•
       	https://www.googleapis.com/auth/siteverification: â•
       	https://www.googleapis.com/auth/webmasters: â•
       	https://www.googleapis.com/auth/analytics.readonly: â•
       	https://www.googleapis.com/auth/tagmanager.readonly: â•
       capabilities:
       	googlesitekit_authenticate: âœ…
       	googlesitekit_setup: âœ…
       	googlesitekit_view_posts_insights: â•
       	googlesitekit_view_dashboard: â•
       	googlesitekit_manage_options: â•
       	googlesitekit_update_plugins: â•
       	googlesitekit_view_splash: âœ…
       	googlesitekit_view_authenticated_dashboard: â•
       	googlesitekit_view_wp_dashboard_widget: â•
       	googlesitekit_view_admin_bar_menu: â•
       	googlesitekit_view_shared_dashboard: â•
       	googlesitekit_read_shared_module_data::["search-console"]: â•
       	googlesitekit_read_shared_module_data::["analytics-4"]: â•
       	googlesitekit_read_shared_module_data::["pagespeed-insights"]: â•
       	googlesitekit_manage_module_sharing_options::["search-console"]: â•
       	googlesitekit_manage_module_sharing_options::["analytics-4"]: â•
       	googlesitekit_manage_module_sharing_options::["pagespeed-insights"]: â•
       	googlesitekit_delegate_module_sharing_management::["search-console"]: â•
       	googlesitekit_delegate_module_sharing_management::["analytics-4"]: â•
       	googlesitekit_delegate_module_sharing_management::["pagespeed-insights"]: â•
       enabled_features:
       	adsenseSetupV2: âœ…
       	enhancedMeasurement: â•
       	ga4Reporting: âœ…
       	gm3Components: â•
       	newsKeyMetrics: â•
       	userInput: â•
       search-console_shared_roles: none
       search-console_management: owner
       analytics-4_shared_roles: none
       analytics-4_management: owner
       pagespeed-insights_shared_roles: none
       pagespeed-insights_management: all_admins
       search_console_property: https://diversity.umich.edu/
       analytics_account_id: 27...
       analytics_property_id: none
       analytics_profile_id: none
       analytics_use_snippet: yes
       analytics_4_property_id: 35...
       analytics_4_web_data_stream_id: 46..
       analytics_4_measurement_id: G-CT...
       analytics_4_use_snippet: yes
       ```
   
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Hummingbird Performance - Cache & Page Speed Optimization for Core Web Vitals | Critical CSS | Minify CSS | Defer CSS Javascript | CDN] PHP memory limit error](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-memory-limit-error/)
 *  Thread Starter [markmont](https://wordpress.org/support/users/markmont/)
 * (@markmont)
 * [2 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-memory-limit-error/#post-17178383)
 * Thanks for the reply Patrick! I will get this information from the website owner
   and post it here. It won’t be until later this week since they currently have
   Hummingbird deactivated — I’ll need to arrange a low-traffic time with them to
   re-activate the plugin and get this information.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[WP DB Driver] PHP Notice: Undefined property: wpdb_drivers::$real_escape](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-notice-undefined-property-wpdb_driversreal_escape/)
 *  [markmont](https://wordpress.org/support/users/markmont/)
 * (@markmont)
 * [13 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/php-notice-undefined-property-wpdb_driversreal_escape/#post-3941910)
 * This is still an issue with plugin version 1.3 when running WP 3.6-RC2 (which
   was released three days ago). Updating the plugin to the version in GitHub fixed
   the problem, without any changes to WP 3.6-RC2.

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