Title: fuzing's Replies | WordPress.org --- # fuzing [ ](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/) * [Profile](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/) * [Topics Started](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/topics/) * [Replies Created](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/replies/) * [Reviews Written](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/reviews/) * [Topics Replied To](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/replied-to/) * [Engagements](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/engagements/) * [Favorites](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/favorites/) Search replies: ## Forum Replies Created Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) * Forum: [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/reviews/) In reply to: [[Elementor Website Builder - more than just a page builder] Migrating all my sites away – Slow & Unsafe](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/migrating-all-my-sites-away-slow-unsafe/) * [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/) * (@fuzing) * [2 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/migrating-all-my-sites-away-slow-unsafe/#post-17742592) * [@ahrale](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ahrale/) – Thanks for the info. I’ve been a software dev (not PHP!!!) for 30 years and I’ve never seen any company pushing updates like these guys do. I’ve also been tracking the diffs on the codebase and many of the updates are ridiculous (including one for a single line of code that should never have passed Q/A). The folks at Elementor don’t seem to understand that there is a risk that comes with any update (especially those with DB migrations). They simply don’t care, and have taken to offloading testing to their customers (even for the pro version) – a total disgrace! I was being generous by calling it “good”. * You can find my comments here: [https://wordpress.org/support/topic/good-plugin-with-absolutely-horrible-update-experience/](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/good-plugin-with-absolutely-horrible-update-experience/) * I’m definitely going to be voting with my wallet, and would never use a plugin with this update frequency! - This reply was modified 2 years ago by [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/). * Forum: [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/reviews/) In reply to: [[Elementor Website Builder - more than just a page builder] Very Poor at Testing their Plugin Updates](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/very-poor-at-testing-their-plugin-updates/) * [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/) * (@fuzing) * [2 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/very-poor-at-testing-their-plugin-updates/#post-17741990) * I couldn’t agree more with [@opfoxtuck](https://wordpress.org/support/users/opfoxtuck/)– this plugin has become ridiculous with its updates over the last 2-3 years. They update this plugin every 3-4 days, in dangerous and buggy ways. I know of half a dozen folks who have complained about this over the years and we’ve all been completely ignored. - This reply was modified 2 years ago by [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/). * Forum: [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/reviews/) In reply to: [[Elementor Website Builder - more than just a page builder] Migrating all my sites away – Slow & Unsafe](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/migrating-all-my-sites-away-slow-unsafe/) * [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/) * (@fuzing) * [2 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/migrating-all-my-sites-away-slow-unsafe/#post-17741974) * [@ahrale](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ahrale/) – I’ve just complained about this again in a new thread. We run over 100 sites and I’m sick to death of having to run buggy updates/migrations every few days…… Despite complaining for the past 2 years about this rookie practice, it simply falls on deaf ears. These guys are amateurs who push every line of code updated through their broken CI/CD system and onto the shoulders of their customers. Ridiculous!! * Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/) In reply to: [[GTM4WP - A Google Tag Manager (GTM) plugin for WordPress] Enhanced Ecommerce tracking event fires multiple times](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/enhanced-ecommerce-tracking-event-fires-multiple-times/) * [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/) * (@fuzing) * [3 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/enhanced-ecommerce-tracking-event-fires-multiple-times/#post-16698078) * Can you describe how you solved this (in a little more detail) – I have the same issue * Forum: [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/reviews/) In reply to: [[MailPoet - Newsletters, Email Marketing, and Automation] Incessant Mailpoet updates will drive you crazy](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/incessant-mailpoet-updates-will-drive-you-crazy/) * Thread Starter [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/) * (@fuzing) * [3 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/incessant-mailpoet-updates-will-drive-you-crazy/#post-16696855) * Thank you for responding, but I take issue with your assertions. In fact, you state as much in your own documentation, claiming “We stick to this weekly release schedule regardless of what needs to be released”…….. this is the same flawed logic as saying “we do 3 day sprints”…… WHY? (perhaps you’ve watched too many episodes of Silicon Valley, which is not how quality software is developed). Many of the other assertions are simply dated and/or false. Most reputable companies are backing away from CI/CD (except into testing/staging), because they understand the issues it creates for their customers. Many of your assertions relating to high-frequency releases for products like Chrome (nightly/weekly) relate to canary/ dev builds that are targeted at developers, not the general public. Your assertions regarding Firefox, Facebook, Yoast, Elementor, Jetpack are simply false – you might want to check your facts. Firefox is monthly, while the others release in an ad-hoc manner (Elementor, frequent – Jetpack, reasonable). * I’d recommend that you read this: [https://hbr.org/2019/01/the-era-of-move-fast-and-break-things-is-over](https://hbr.org/2019/01/the-era-of-move-fast-and-break-things-is-over) * And this: [https://tonyvzampella.medium.com/move-fast-and-break-things-had-enough-yet-d80335149132](https://tonyvzampella.medium.com/move-fast-and-break-things-had-enough-yet-d80335149132) * In it, there’s a great quote…… “The _Break Things_ ideology finds us scaling incompetence and only becoming competent when necessary, on the customer’s dime” * Luminaries from the software world have also referred to the process of strict software release scheduling as “asinine”, “robotic”, and “counterproductive”. See comments from Donald Knuth and Linus Torvalds. * Continue to outsource your testing to your customers (which is what you are doing)…… at your own peril! * Forum: [Fixing WordPress](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/how-to-and-troubleshooting/) In reply to: [WordPress crashes when updating plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-crashes-when-updating-plugins/) * Thread Starter [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/) * (@fuzing) * [3 years, 2 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-crashes-when-updating-plugins/#post-16500117) * Thanks – Will do – I’ll let you know how that goes - This reply was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/). * Forum: [Fixing WordPress](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/how-to-and-troubleshooting/) In reply to: [An automated WordPress update has failed to complete – please attempt the update](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/an-automated-wordpress-update-has-failed-to-complete-please-attempt-the-update-11/) * [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/) * (@fuzing) * [3 years, 2 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/an-automated-wordpress-update-has-failed-to-complete-please-attempt-the-update-11/#post-16500101) * [@moccarisso](https://wordpress.org/support/users/moccarisso/) – I’m having a similar issue. I’ve been running wordpress/woocommerce for the past 2 years without( much of an) issue, but yesterday I tried updating a couple of plugins and got the following useless errors (see images). Setting WP_DEBUG to true and examining the wp-content/debug.log file shows nothing. I’m keen to see what you learn. Incidentally I’d just updated Elementor earlier on. * ![](https://i0.wp.com/fuzing.s3.amazonaws.com/demos/screen-shot-1.png?ssl=1) * ![](https://i0.wp.com/fuzing.s3.amazonaws.com/demos/screen-shot-2.png?ssl=1) * I totally understand your frustration. - This reply was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by [fuzing](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fuzing/). Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total)