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  • FYI, “Vista Buttons” isn’t a plugin; it’s an independent HTML-generator program that I’ve used for years to make website menus. I would very much like to see those capabilities incorporated into MaxButtons. Thanks for listening!!

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    I’m sorry. I thought maybe if I adopted what you consider to be a more civil attitude and reworded my question so that it might be a little clearer, I might finally get some help. All I want to know is what that message means. By itself, it tells me absolutely nothing, and I have no clue. Is there some documentation somewhere that will tell me? Or am I going to have to dig into the WP code itself to find out why WP asks me that?

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    No, it absolutely has not been answered — ever, not just this time.

    All I was told is that you weren’t interested in answering it, and I should go elsewhere. Perhaps you consider that “polite”, but I do not.

    I do understand how things are supposed to work on this forum, and I see many instances when responses to other questions have been sincere, polite, and helpful. In fact, I have genuinely and gratefully been helped in the past. Your answers to this question, unfortunately, have not helped, and I do not understand why you keep responding when you have no intention of trying.

    You’re about to get your wish. I’m going away completely frustrated. I absolutely cannot mark the topic as “resolved” because it is not.

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    I didn’t say the error is meaningless; I said the message is meaningless because it tells me nothing about what the error is. As long as you refuse to understand what I’m asking, and unexplainedly claim that the message doesn’t come from WP, any attempt at securing help from this forum is a waste of time — not because the question I’m asking isn’t appropriate, but because it’s apparently not within your field of interest, or knowledge. I agree with you that we’re both wasting our time here — me because no one will attempt to answer my question, and you because you don’t understand the question but keep giving me useless comments anyway. This topic may as well be closed because I’m clearly not going to get any help from this forum. Rather than chiding me, perhaps you yourself should review what the word “help” means.

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    Since the message is generated when themes from several different vendors are tested, it’s clear that the message comes from WordPress. Note — I didn’t say WP caused the error, I said it must have found something it didn’t like about the theme and then presented me with a completely meaningless error message based on that. How can I even begin to report the problem to any theme vendor when the message tells me nothing about what I should report to them? Why is it so hard for WP programmers to let me know what the problem is, rather than giving me a smart-a$$ meaningless error message? They obviously must think I’m trying to get away with something, or perhaps they think the theme writer is, but I have no idea what it is because everyone who’s knowledgeable seems to think such an answer is beneath them. This whole experience is really disappointing and frustrating…

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    Obviously you have no interest in answering my question. I never asked for support of any theme, commercial or otherwise. All I want to know is why WP would present me with such a snarky and useless error message, rather than tell me what the problem is. Is that really too much to ask?

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    I guess what I’m really asking is, if it truly is a problem caused by many theme (or plug-in) writers incorrectly coding things that now shows up because WP developers suddenly decided to implement some new standard, or to enforce some old standard that wasn’t enforced in the past, why is it so hard for the WP developers to tell us what it is that’s being done wrong so that we might be able to fix it? Why is it such a secret?

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    In reply to: Cheatin' uh?

    That’s pretty much what I’m doing. I have a localhost WP installation where I’m testing things before I make the site live. Some themes cause the error message to appear, and others don’t. In most of those cases I may be able to use the theme today, but if I try it again tomorrow I get the error. The next day, it may or may not cause the error again. How can it be the theme causing the error if it’s not consistent?

    I’ve seen some “fixes” posted, but they generally require me to modify a WP js file, and I don’t think it should be “my” place to fix what looks to me like a WP problem. I’m just a user, not a developer. What can I do?

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    When you start out by telling me that “This is not a message output by WordPress”, I immediately lose confidence in any other comments you may make. It is clearly output by WordPress, although I can readily agree that WordPress is likely reacting to something else misbehaving. But, as I said in an earlier comment, it’s not consistent. Sometimes I get the error, and other times — under exactly the same circumstances — I don’t. When it isn’t repeatable, I don’t know where to turn for help. The only thing that’s the same every time I get the message is WordPress, so here I am. Why the question wouldn’t be supported by this forum is something I, and apparently many others (who started other similar threads), don’t understand.

    The error message itself is infuriatingly useless, in that it tells one exactly nothing about what the problem is. It’s no more useful than the message “Windows has encountered an error.” Believe it or not, I might actually have enough brains to figure out what to do if the message meant something to me.

    I know very well that many of the “folks” here have contributed for a long time, and honestly try to help. But, it doesn’t help to tell me to avoid sleazy themes. That’s not the problem!

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    I’d be a lot more comfortable doing so if I could tell them that I received an error message that meant something, rather than some WP programmer’s idea of a clever message that means little to anyone other than to satisfy his or her own sense of humor (or lack of same).

    Every single thread I’ve found that’s related to this error message ends up unresolved, with the thread closed after 6 or 8 messages. I can’t help wondering why the experts, whoever they may be, are so unwilling or unable to help those of us who don’t claim to be programmers. Is it not true that themes in the WP archive have supposedly been reviewed and tested for such problems before being accepted for listing there?

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    In reply to: Cheatin' uh?

    I too am sorry for your issues, but “support” to me means something other than an irrelevant response to my plea for help. This is the same thing I’ve seen in other threads related to the same error message — blame it on the user rather than help discover the true root of the problem.

    I notice that you chose to attack me for my perceived insubordination rather than respond to my questions. I really could use some relevant assistance instead.

    Like I said earlier, if you don’t know the answer, please leave it up to a more knowledgeable member to respond. I AM NOT using some fly-by-night site’s infected themes!

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    In reply to: Cheatin' uh?

    If you don’t know the answer, please don’t waste your and my time with an answer like that that helps no one.

    If it’s not a message output by WordPress, how is it that it’s always exactly the same wording? Surely those improper folks wouldn’t just happen to tell me they’re such by all producing exactly the same message telling me I shouldn’t be using their product, would they? They’re not that stupid, any more than I am.

    All of the themes I’m looking at came from the WP archive or a reputable site.

    elffuts

    (@elffuts)

    As the originator of this topic, I can say that it is incorrectly labeled as resolved. After several tries, I gave up. The problem was never solved, but if I read the last few replies correctly, I was told that I really didn’t need what I was asking for. If that’s the case, why have I found dozens of other themes where the menus work like I asked?

    As I said, I’m not a css programmer. Can you please give me a more detailed description about where I should insert those changes? Is it between lines 102 and 103? or where?

    Thank you!

    I wish I knew enough about CSS to feel comfortable making that change. Unfortunately, I can’t even find the place to add the code lines you provided. Are you planning to make available an updated version of Raindrops that includes this change?

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