Title: Dave Doolin's Replies | WordPress.org

---

# Dave Doolin

  [  ](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)

 *   [Profile](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 *   [Topics Started](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/topics/)
 *   [Replies Created](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/)
 *   [Reviews Written](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/reviews/)
 *   [Topics Replied To](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replied-to/)
 *   [Engagements](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/engagements/)
 *   [Favorites](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/favorites/)

 Search replies:

## Forum Replies Created

Viewing 15 replies - 1 through 15 (of 62 total)

1 [2](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/2/?output_format=md)
[3](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/3/?output_format=md)
[4](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/4/?output_format=md)
[5](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/5/?output_format=md)
[→](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/2/?output_format=md)

 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[hRecipe] hRecipe stopped working with WordPress update](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/hrecipe-stopped-working-with-wordpress-update/)
 *  Plugin Author [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [11 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/hrecipe-stopped-working-with-wordpress-update/#post-5348207)
 * Hi Julie,
 * Unfortunately, I no longer have time to work on the hrecipe plugin. Even more
   unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, WordPress policy requires the plugin
   to remain in the plugin archive permanently, else I would simply remove it.
 * Thank you for using hrecipe in the past. I worked to keep it simple as so many
   of the other recipe plugins seemed overly complex to me.
 * Best,
    -dave doolin
 * ps: The source code is available on my github account, and anyone else is free
   to update it.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[hRecipe] Lang](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/lang/)
 *  Plugin Author [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [13 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/lang/#post-3228671)
 * Next thing is to create a repeatable scenario which I can use to see what’s going
   on. I don’t have enough information here to do anything.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[hRecipe] [Plugin: hRecipe] Adding Images](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-hrecipe-adding-images/)
 *  Plugin Author [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [13 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-hrecipe-adding-images/#post-2552226)
 * “Google search doesn’t honor correctly marked up recipe formats for sites it 
   doesn’t want to.”
 * Yep.
 * Google also reserves the right to choose how to display author attribution.
 * I see it as a Lose-Neutral game. Adding semantic information is necessary because
   everyone else is doing, so you lose if you don’t. It’s neutral insofar as Google
   may or may not display the markup.
 * Which gives us as providers 3 choices: 1. Play to win, 2. don’t play at all, 
   3. or play like you don’t give a damn what Google does or does not do. I’m playing
   Option 3 myself.
 *   Forum: [Fixing WordPress](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/how-to-and-troubleshooting/)
   
   In reply to: [hrecipe](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/hrecipe-1/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/hrecipe-1/#post-2790197)
 * [@djhood61](https://wordpress.org/support/users/djhood61/) – sounds like a workable
   if tedious plan for now.
 * [@wpyogi](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpyogi/) – thank you, I may look
   into CKeditor myself.
 * As more people demand schema and microformatting, I suspect WP will have to do
   something eventually.
 * There are also TinyMCE-related plugins which allow users to exert finer-grained
   control over how the component behaves.
 *   Forum: [Fixing WordPress](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/how-to-and-troubleshooting/)
   
   In reply to: [hrecipe](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/hrecipe-1/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/hrecipe-1/#post-2790176)
 * If you’re using the visual editor side (tinymce), and switch back and forth to
   the html view, TinyMCE often strips tags.
 * There is very little that can be done about that.
 * I can’t say anything more without being able to reproduce the problem, which 
   I haven’t ever been able to do. It’s been reported one time previously, but that
   person was not able to document their workflow or how to reproduce it.
 * Thanks.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[hRecipe] [Plugin: hRecipe] Hook into plugin?](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-hrecipe-hook-into-plugin/)
 *  Plugin Author [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-hrecipe-hook-into-plugin/#post-2499318)
 * Carrie, you should be able to grab the hrecipe subtree DOM from the div or fieldset
   with the hrecipe class attribute set. That *should* put it into one object. If
   it doesn’t, ensure hrecipe is closing out the div or fieldset elements correctly(
   you can check this on the w3 validator: [http://validator.w3.org/](http://validator.w3.org/)).
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[hRecipe] [Plugin: hRecipe] Hook into plugin?](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-hrecipe-hook-into-plugin/)
 *  Plugin Author [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-hrecipe-hook-into-plugin/#post-2499314)
 * That would be in WP Print’s bailiwick, Carrie.
 * Thanks, Dave D
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[ReciPress] Does ReciPress work with hRecipe?](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/does-recipress-work-with-hrecipe/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/does-recipress-work-with-hrecipe/#post-2494183)
 * Hi Tammy, yeah, I had to totally rewrite everything for hrecipe as well, after
   Google published their specs and guidelines.
 * Rajaman, that is exactly the situation last I checked (December 2011). Google
   _may_ start weighting it in the future, and to be sure, it does help with click
   throughs on any given SERP from I’ve been able to find out from users. Overall,
   it’s a total win anyway.
 * Also, Google is now pushing Schema.org microdata, which I’m using on something
   else but not for hrecipe yet.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[ReciPress] Does ReciPress work with hRecipe?](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/does-recipress-work-with-hrecipe/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/does-recipress-work-with-hrecipe/#post-2494090)
 * Ok, that makes more sense. Here’s the deal:
 * Microformats, including hrecipe, do NOT weight SEO results at all in Google. 
   There is zero SEO benefit to using microformats. Don’t believe me, check Google
   for yourself, they say so *explicitly.*
 * The benefit is increasing click through from search results. And that is a very
   big benefit indeed, and well worth using whichever recipe plugin you prefer.
 * The recipress plugin differs from hrecipe plugin by offering a fully featured(
   so said) recipe publication system. hrecipe plugin is far simpler, adding a microformatted
   recipe to any blog post or page.
 * These plugins serve different markets.
 * Which you choose to use depends on your needs.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[ReciPress] Does ReciPress work with hRecipe?](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/does-recipress-work-with-hrecipe/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/does-recipress-work-with-hrecipe/#post-2494087)
 * I don’t know what ReciPress is.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Youtube with Style] [Plugin: Youtube with Style] This plugin kills Default WP Visual Editing Toolbar if using hRecipe](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-youtube-with-style-this-plugin-kills-default-wp-visual-editing-toolbar-if-using-hrecipe-plugin/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-youtube-with-style-this-plugin-kills-default-wp-visual-editing-toolbar-if-using-hrecipe-plugin/#post-2458423)
 * DV, yes, thank you, and I really appreciate your attentiveness to these issues.
 * My response is in part for the benefit of the other two plugin authors. There
   were some changes to the toolbar handling code between 3.2 and 3.3, hopefully
   everyone will get updated soon.
 * Again, thanks for reporting, it really makes a difference.
 *   Forum: [Plugins](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/)
    In
   reply to: [[Youtube with Style] [Plugin: Youtube with Style] This plugin kills Default WP Visual Editing Toolbar if using hRecipe](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-youtube-with-style-this-plugin-kills-default-wp-visual-editing-toolbar-if-using-hrecipe-plugin/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-youtube-with-style-this-plugin-kills-default-wp-visual-editing-toolbar-if-using-hrecipe-plugin/#post-2458408)
 * I’m the hrecipe developer. hrecipe is compatible with WordPress 3.3, as you can
   see from examining the latest released commit: [http://plugins.trac.wordpress.org/browser/hrecipe/tags/0.6.1/hrecipe.php](http://plugins.trac.wordpress.org/browser/hrecipe/tags/0.6.1/hrecipe.php)
 * I have installed both of these other plugins on a WP 3.3/3.4 installation with
   WP_DEBUG enabled. Both report a number of problems. The Youtube plugin especially
   reports a very large number of problems.
 * Before I release any revision of hrecipe, I do test it against the latest version
   of WP, typically within an hour of the very latest commit to WP core, as well
   as with the current version of WP. This testing is performed with a suite of 
   debugging plugins and with the WP_DEBUG flag enabled in wp-config.php.
 * If you have access to a developer, please have him or her verify my results.
 * Thank you for considering hrecipe. I keep hrecipe as simple as possible, because
   simple is hard enough.
 *   Forum: [Hacks](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/hacks/)
   
   In reply to: [Disambiguating object_id in wp_term_relationships table](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/disambiguating-object_id-in-wp_term_relationships-table/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/disambiguating-object_id-in-wp_term_relationships-table/#post-1804941)
 * Oh yeah, I almost never deal with the SQL directly.
 * I just stubbed out a little plugin for investigating terms. I read source quite
   a bit, but sometimes it’s just handy to have the output from various functions
   in the admin area.
 *   Forum: [Hacks](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/plugins-and-hacks/hacks/)
   
   In reply to: [Disambiguating object_id in wp_term_relationships table](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/disambiguating-object_id-in-wp_term_relationships-table/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/disambiguating-object_id-in-wp_term_relationships-table/#post-1804939)
 * Thanks for writing this up, Tom. As it turns out, I am looking at this very thing
   at the moment.
 *   Forum: [Fixing WordPress](https://wordpress.org/support/forum/how-to-and-troubleshooting/)
   
   In reply to: [svg embeding](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/svg-embeding/)
 *  [Dave Doolin](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/)
 * (@doolin)
 * [14 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/svg-embeding/#post-1822669)
 * [@daftdave](https://wordpress.org/support/users/daftdave/) – [http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/wpautop](http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/wpautop)

Viewing 15 replies - 1 through 15 (of 62 total)

1 [2](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/2/?output_format=md)
[3](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/3/?output_format=md)
[4](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/4/?output_format=md)
[5](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/5/?output_format=md)
[→](https://wordpress.org/support/users/doolin/replies/page/2/?output_format=md)