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  • dcrunningguy

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    disregard my ‘show_option_none’ => part of the above. It just makes it an option. Duh.

    dcrunningguy

    (@dcrunningguy)

    For anyone reading this in the my future or your present (as opposed to reading it in the past), ‘show_option_none’ isn’t binary. At least not for taxonomy select at this moment in time with this version of WP (4.9.6) and this version of CMB2 (4.1) with the winds blowing from the northwest at 10 mph. WordPress is a cruel mistress, so it might not work for you.

    ‘show_option_none’ => ‘you can enter placeholder text here’

    On a related note, using MustardBee’s awesome Select2 CMB2 field (see: Github), you can add a placeholder to the Select2 field using the “desc” field parameter. I found this out on accident. It even works when you are using the Select2 field purely to enter tags, as opposed to having existing values to choose from.

    One last thing related to MustardBees, a common problem is that a taxonomy’s output is the ID (and any output that’s an array with more than one value is not comma separated). I provide code to resolve both of these things in the issues section for that plugin.

    dcrunningguy

    (@dcrunningguy)

    Marking it as resolved but if you have an answer to my “replace the term ‘none'” question, cool. If not, I’ll figure it out.

    dcrunningguy

    (@dcrunningguy)

    Just saw you released 4.1. This resolved the aforementioned issue.

    dcrunningguy

    (@dcrunningguy)

    Just ran debug and nothing came up. I literally only use three plugins (CMB2, your brilliant Post Type/Tax UI and Simple Custom CSS/JS), so it was pretty easy to figure out the bad combo.

    The best way I could describe it is that functions and screens just aren’t appearing for those plugins. The common link is among them is they all allow you to add/test CSS and (more importantly) JS via an admin screen interface to work out the kinks. For example, with “Custom CSS and Javascript”, the CSS and JS interface screens have disappeared. For “Simple Custom CSS/JS”, the screens are visible, but most functionality is gone.

    Here is the more used one (I’m using Pro but they have a free version WP as well) – https://www.silkypress.com/simple-custom-css-js-pro/

    Here’s another one- https://wordpress.org/plugins/custom-css-and-javascript/

    Note that this is a pretty common issue with this sort of plugin, because of its nature. They have to use sort of hack-y methods to bring it to the admin screen, so this stuff happens.

    dcrunningguy

    (@dcrunningguy)

    Update- definitely think the onus might fall on CMB2 for the CSS/JS thing. It appears the update is blocking any CSS and JS applications on the admin side. In other words, the screens to add/modify CSS or JS in plugins on the admin screen are not present for any CSS/JS plugin that I just tried it with.

    dcrunningguy

    (@dcrunningguy)

    thanks!

    Sorry man. Your explanation above and linked blog entry are missing important aspects regarding the functions.php part. The below StackOverflow answer covers things you missed.

    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47619233/how-to-change-the-default-font-of-tinymce-for-wordpress

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by dcrunningguy.

    thanks for being receptive to the idea

    Note the addon itself was $45, not cheap. I went in a different direction to meet my needs, but no…they really <ahem> needed to make sure there wasn’t an issue and better understand the situation.

    Once again – if you purchase an addon for this plugin, make sure you understand their onerous return policy.

    Sure, thanks for asking. A few thoughts:

    There are lots of pieces, and it can be difficult at times to understand “what goes with what” and “what does what”. You have post types, fields, taxonomies, templates, archives, views and forms. It is essentially a content management system, and that’s great. The dashboard describes which is the front end and back end pieces…also great. But you end hitting unforeseen snags, which is true anywhere, but especially frustrating at times here given the time investment required.

    I’ve had challenges with connecting “fields” created with other WordPress add-ons to Toolset applications. I understand the reasoning you give regarding not querying other application’s databases, but I was able to accomplish that with other add-ons who also appear to be following WP’s guidelines.

    I think the most difficult aspect to learn was Views. Understanding what a View is was simple enough…but navigating the complex interface and options available for it was daunting. Everything just sort of looked alike but did slightly different things (in Views).

    Also, the Toolset builder can be very clunky. Fortunately, you have good integration with Beaver Builder. Creating forms with Toolset (from a style standpoint) is not fun and pretty time consuming. And you are sort of wedded to using the Toolset form application because connecting user-submitted form content to your backend Toolset applications generally requires this. This goes back to the disconnect between, let’s say, Gravity Forms and Toolset.

    So if I were to synthesize, I’d say the 1) User Interface needs to makeover, 2)there needs to be clearer and simpler clues to how things flow together 3) there needs to be better integration with other add-ons, especially data coming from them (seeing how Toolset is basically CMS) and 4) Views should be easier to understand and navigate.

    Overall, I still give it four stars. It does more than most applications, and while I ended up not being able to use it how I wanted to, I am still going to be able to use pieces of it.

    It is all THE ABSOLUTE BEST way to learn about WordPress data management. Because you will be forced to learn about it. You are not going to walk away from Toolset with a finished product knowing just as much about how WordPress content is set up than when you started. It is a baptism by fire.

    Edit: Now it is working. Feel free to delete this question if you can.

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