Title: WordPress or Joomla! Last modified: August 19, 2016 --- # WordPress or Joomla! * [fs_tigre](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fs_tigre/) * (@fs_tigre) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/) * Hi, * I’m currently debating if I should learn WordPress or continuing learning more about Joomla!. I have played around with Joomla before but I have heard I lot of good comments about WordPress that I started wondering if I should learn it. * Is it easer to create a template in WordPress that in Joomla!? * In Joomla! you deal with three files when creating a template, a PHP file, an XML file and of course an HTML/CSS file. * Can someone please explain the process or the steps in creating a template in WordPress? * Thanks a lot! Viewing 15 replies - 1 through 15 (of 18 total) 1 [2](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/page/2/?output_format=md) [→](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/page/2/?output_format=md) * [Clayton James](https://wordpress.org/support/users/claytonjames/) * (@claytonjames) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1234975) * [http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Development](http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Development) * [jbbrwcky](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jbbrwcky/) * (@jbbrwcky) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235065) * Joomla is very bloated, hard to work with IMHO. WordPress is much more flexible, lots of community help (here), loads of examples to work with and develop from. * [Peter Boosten](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pboosten/) * (@pboosten) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235073) * The most depressing thingemie about Joomla was the inability to upgrade plugins( components or whatever they’re called), without deinstalling them first. * Deinstalling meant losing all settings. * Peter * Thread Starter [fs_tigre](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fs_tigre/) * (@fs_tigre) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235083) * Well, what I’m looking for is something that wont take me hours to create a template. * 1- How easy it is to create a template in WordPress, easer then Joomla? * 2- Are themes different then templates? * 3- Is there any limitations in the design part or you can prety much convert any design into a WordPress template even if the web site is not intented to be used as a blog? * Thanks a lot! * [Peter Boosten](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pboosten/) * (@pboosten) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235084) * > 1- How easy it is to create a template in WordPress, easer then Joomla? * In my experience it’s equal in effort, but if you want extra granularity (different looks on different parts), then you’re better of using WordPress * > 2- Are themes different then templates? * Two words, unfortunately used in a mixed way, describing the same. Theme is the name used in the theme directory ( 🙂 ), however in the database the theme directory is called a template. I would go for theme 🙂 * > 3- Is there any limitations in the design part or you can prety much convert > any design into a WordPress template even if the web site is not intented to > be used as a blog? * I’ve seen WordPress used as a CMS (for the looks, by default WordPress lacks some backend CMS functionality, which however can be mitigated by plugins, which I never used, btw). * Peter * Thread Starter [fs_tigre](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fs_tigre/) * (@fs_tigre) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235087) * This is what scares me I little bit, since I will be using it as a CMS not as blog. Will I need to get some plug-ins in order for me to use it as a CMS? * [Peter Boosten](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pboosten/) * (@pboosten) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235088) * That depends on user management: if you’re the only one writing, you don’t need any plugin, if you however have multiple authors who _should not be able to interfere with each others work_, then yes, you’ll need to find a solution. * Peter * [Peter Boosten](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pboosten/) * (@pboosten) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235089) * Have a look at [this](http://www.wpthemesplugin.com/cms-plugins-for-wordpress/) * Peter * Thread Starter [fs_tigre](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fs_tigre/) * (@fs_tigre) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235098) * Thank you Peter! * So WordPress was designed for a single user only, you cannot create users without a plug-in? * I’m more concerned about the creation of templates, if this is eraser than Joomla! I will go this route. * [Peter Boosten](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pboosten/) * (@pboosten) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235100) * > So WordPress was designed for a single user only, you cannot create users without > a plug-in? * noooooo, that’s not what I said. You have different levels of access rights ( subscriber, author, editor, manager). But IIRC authors can edit each others posts and comments to those posts. If that’s not a problem for you, then there’s no problem using WordPress as CMS. * About the _themes_: Joomla’s learning curve is a bit less steep, I guess (the actual coding), but the look and feel is for both the same (css, the colors and fonts and stuff). * The artistic freedom in WordPress however is so much better. And of course the millions of free themes that you can download and customize. Joomla’s templates are almost never for free. * Peter * Thread Starter [fs_tigre](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fs_tigre/) * (@fs_tigre) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235107) * Sorry for the miss understanding. I will try to create a theme and see how hard it is. * Thanks a lot * Thread Starter [fs_tigre](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fs_tigre/) * (@fs_tigre) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235108) * Now is there a plug-in that can be used with Dreamweaver? * [Peter Boosten](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pboosten/) * (@pboosten) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235110) * Never used one, but Googling gives a couple of hits. * Peter * Thread Starter [fs_tigre](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fs_tigre/) * (@fs_tigre) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235117) * What are the step when creating a theme or template. * Create you layout make a functional web page and than convert it to a theme? * Can you guy share your own process? * Thanks * [Peter Boosten](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pboosten/) * (@pboosten) * [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/#post-1235163) * > Create you layout make a functional web page and than convert it to a theme? * That’s one approach. Another one is taking a ‘naked’ theme (like Starkers) and start designing bottom-up (first typography, then basic layout, then colors, then graphics). * And yet other people use existing themes, and modify them as needed. * Peter Viewing 15 replies - 1 through 15 (of 18 total) 1 [2](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/page/2/?output_format=md) [→](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/page/2/?output_format=md) The topic ‘WordPress or Joomla!’ is closed to new replies. * 18 replies * 4 participants * Last reply from: [Peter Boosten](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pboosten/) * Last activity: [16 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-or-joomla-1/page/2/#post-1235183) * Status: not resolved ## Topics ### Topics with no replies ### Non-support topics ### Resolved topics ### Unresolved topics ### All topics