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WordPress not following its own guideline? (10 posts)

  1. jlee2
    Member
    Posted 12 months ago #

    In the plugin submission guideline, you guys stated that

    We don't allow 'WordPress' in plugin names as it's redundant and somewhat obvious that you're a WordPress plugin

    but I can see many many plugins using WordPress in their names. Including:

    WordPress Simple Firewall
    WordPress Download Manager
    WordPress Simple Paypal Shopping Cart
    WordPress Event Calendar
    WordPress Video Player
    WordPress Flickr Embed

    so basically WordPress does allow the use of WordPress in plugin names. what is the point of saying it is not allowed ?

  2. Andrew
    Nuh uh moderator
    Posted 12 months ago #

    WordPress not following its own guideline?

    If the plugin belongs to WordPress, i.e. it was created by Automatic (WordPress.com) then they are allowed to use their own trademark name.

  3. jlee2
    Member
    Posted 12 months ago #

    WordPress Simple Firewall is developed by iControlWP
    WordPress Download Manager is developed by Shaon and Shahriar Alam
    WordPress Video Player is developed by webdorado
    and etc
    none of the examples I gave are developed by Automatic

  4. Andrew
    Nuh uh moderator
    Posted 12 months ago #

    Sorry I misread what you meant.

  5. WordPress not following its own guideline?

    I think you mean https://wordpress.org/plugins/about/faq/ and WordPress does follow it's own guidelines. Some plugin developers don't.

    Except for the third example, which pre-dates that rule and was grandfathered in, the slugs do not have WordPress in them. Yes, that's not what you meant I'm just being thorough.

    http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-simple-firewall/
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/download-manager/
    --> https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-simple-paypal-shopping-cart/
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/spider-event-calendar/
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/player/
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-flickr-embed/

    My guess is that the authors changes the display name in the readme.txt file and used SVN to push the update with that name change. If you've the inclination you can look at the developers log for when that happened.

    IMHO that should be reported when found as that's misleading. These are not a bunch of "WordPress™ Plugin" (note the trademark) and that behavior should be discouraged.

  6. jlee2
    Member
    Posted 12 months ago #

    I think you mean https://wordpress.org/plugins/about/faq/

    Yes, I was referring to that page.

    ...the slugs do not have WordPress in them

    It is not just the problem with the name, many have WordPress in their slugs.

    examples:
    http://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-connect/ [WordPress Connect]
    http://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-https/ [WordPress HTTPS]
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-tweaks/ [WordPress Tweaks]
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-registry/ [WordPress Registry]
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-toolbar/ [WordPress Toolbar]
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-filter/ [WordPress Filter]
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-move/ [WordPress Move]
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-zendesk/ [WordPress Zendesk]
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-gps/ [WordPress GPS]
    and more .....

  7. It is not just the problem with the name, many have WordPress in their slugs.

    Yes but those slugs were generated by the submitted name before the change was made.

    Look at the first example and scroll down in the log.

    https://plugins.trac.wordpress.org/log/wordpress-connect/

    That was from 4 years ago before is was made unacceptable to put in names with WordPress in it.

    That's changed and I'm ivory soap sure that the submission form will not accept WordPress in the name anymore. But that doesn't stop someone from changing the display name or title text (not the slug, that's unchangeable) to include "WordPress" in it.

  8. jlee2
    Member
    Posted 12 months ago #

    That was from 4 years ago before is was made unacceptable to put in names with WordPress in it.

    that brings up the topic I opened about old plugins, maybe the author of these plugins should be notified regarding these changes and they can modify their plugin's name from "wordpress" to simply "wp" .

    I know 32,044 plugins is a lot of work for mods to go one by one, but maybe you can put a "report" link where other users can report individual plugins.

  9. that brings up the topic I opened about old plugins

    *Laughs and wags finger muttering "I see what you did there"*

    Nope, still not agreeing with you there. ;)

    Changing the slugs not only creates a metric ton of unnecessary work for the plugin team (which mostly is made up on non-moderators [I am not on that team]) but would mess up user's installations regarding those plugins. When the slug changes it becomes another plugin.

    You could potentially have multiple copies of the same plugin installed if the slug changed.

    maybe you can put a "report" link where other users can report individual plugins.

    That's an idea. The drawback could be that it would lead to another metric ton of needless work. Right now a plugin that's violating the rules can be reported via the plugins [at] wordpress.org email address.

  10. We didn't go back in time and force everyone to change.

    If we did, a lot of great plugins would be lost with no way for people to update, so we grandfathered them in.

    Currently, only core plugins can use the wordpress slug in the IRL, and no one else new.

    Good guidelines change over time :) we develop a better understanding of them and we improve them. It's not anything horrible, it's just a decade of history.

    Oh and I AM in the team, and I actually was the one who kvetched about having WordPress in the slug and begged Otto to just block it. Same with people who use 'plugin' in their slugs. We don't allow that anymore either, unless there's a good reason.

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