Title: Wordfence and PHPIDS
Last modified: August 21, 2016

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# Wordfence and PHPIDS

 *  Resolved [phil_trottier](https://wordpress.org/support/users/phil_trottier/)
 * (@phil_trottier)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordfence-and-phpids/)
 * Hello,
 * We’ve been protecting our site with Wordfence and MuteScreamer. However, I am
   wondering if I need to keep MuteScreamer as complimentary protection.
 * Does Wordfence also use PHPIDS or comparable approach? Could I remove MuteScreamer
   without concerns?
 * Many thanks,
 * Phil
 * [https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordfence/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wordfence/)

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 *  [MickeyRoush](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mickeyroush/)
 * (@mickeyroush)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordfence-and-phpids/#post-4890686)
 * They are basically two different things. Wordfence does not use an approach similar
   to MuteScreamer/PHPIDS.
 *  Plugin Author [Mark Maunder](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mmaunder/)
 * (@mmaunder)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordfence-and-phpids/#post-4890762)
 * Hi Phil,
 * I’m not familiar with that product so I really can’t comment.
 * Regards,
 * Mark.
 *  [MickeyRoush](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mickeyroush/)
 * (@mickeyroush)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordfence-and-phpids/#post-4890776)
 * [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHPIDS](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHPIDS)
    [https://github.com/PHPIDS/PHPIDS](https://github.com/PHPIDS/PHPIDS)
 * It’s more volatile, than your plugin Wordfence. It blocks serious attacks and
   is based on a threat level. So depending on what you have set for the threat 
   level, you could easily get a lot of false positives.
 *  Thread Starter [phil_trottier](https://wordpress.org/support/users/phil_trottier/)
 * (@phil_trottier)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordfence-and-phpids/#post-4890785)
 * That is why I was thinking of deactivating that plugin.
 * It’s been giving out false positives on some Ajax requests and configuring it
   to disregard all possible Ajax requests on my site is not something I am keen
   on doing.
 * I basically like the PHPIDS approach but not so much the plugin. So I was wondering
   if Wordfence would be considered sufficient to protect my website.
 * Thanks,
 * Phil
 *  [MickeyRoush](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mickeyroush/)
 * (@mickeyroush)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordfence-and-phpids/#post-4890797)
 * The problem is that Ajax is inherently dangerous as it relies too much on user
   input.
 * If you use the MuteScreamer plugin you need to exclude some of the items or set
   the threshold higher so people won’t get locked out. Better to have some protection
   than none at all.
 * If you’re wanting more protection, try installing ZBBlock. Be warned it’s not
   a plugin, so it takes a bit of knowledge, time, and patience to install/setup.

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