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  • I just got in touch with support at my host and got them to de-install wordpress. I can’t say I like it; one person I talked to referred to it as ‘counter-intuitive’, and, well, that’s nicer than some of the things I’ve felt like calling it. As I set wordPress aside, I wonder long and hard what the attraction with it is. I’ve repeatedly heard that it’s great because you don’t have to know coding, but the things that do have to be understood about it are a lot more difficult than coding. That is essentially a file management issue; something which comes to me with more difficulty. I’ve pitched it because I’ve repeatedly had too many difficulties logging into it, and when I finally am able to do that, the content management system only adds layers of complexity. On Dreamweaver or notepad I can simply go right to the code and make changes with the code.

    The business of widgets for menus or footers only adds an extra, unnecessary step to the process, and once that step’s taken it’s additional steps still before I can reach the code I might want to change, and it’s been an absolute ordeal to do these things.
    I honestly can’t comprehend the appeal to wordPress.

    But I have some suggestions for the powers that be. One: wordpress.com and wordpress.org are two entirely different entities, and it would make a lot of sense if they therefore had different names. I’ve been confused to pieces at times because I inadvertently began working on one when I meant to use the other. It has given me a lot of unnecessary stress.

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  • Why WordPress?
    As a professional web developer I create many websites. Some I do all of the updates on and some my clients like to do their own updates.

    For a client to change an HTML based site it is nearly impossible without some coding knowledge, but with a WordPress site the client can log into the backend and make blog posts, update images/page content, add events to the calendar or anything else that I, as a developer, code the theme to allow.

    You seem a bit confused as to the roles you are associating. You are comparing the role of a web developer to the role of the site editor.

    WordPress and most other CMS’s are php template/database driven apps that serve html to the server. COMPLETELY different from an HTML web site.

    There are many benefits to developing sites with WordPress. But don’t get confused. It still takes a web developer to build a WordPress site (or at least someone who knows a bit of code). Unless you buy a premium theme and just copy/paste content.

    Just by your mention of Dreamweaver (a LONG outdated piece of software that NO web developer uses) I can tell that your skill level is not quite up to the task of developing a WordPress site, yet.

    To truly get the most out of WordPress you MUST KNOW at least HTML and CSS. To customize page templates or template parts, you need to know basic PHP. There are a lot of tutorials out there and the Codex is a wealth of info to the newbie such as yourself.

    But do not be mistaken, WordPress, Joomla, OctoberCMS… are all tools of the web developer and not the admin assistant. WordPress is just the easiest to update content after the site has been built by a pro-

    If you would like to learn, this is the perfect place. Ask away…

    Hey @jaycbrf it’s not good to blast somebody who’s already in a bad state. In fact a version of WordPress not long ago came out with a little video showing a lady who can easily develop with WordPress with a little but of CSS.

    WordPress can be very confusing at times; just because the person mentioned Dreamweaver or Notepad it doesn’t mean you can start judging his/her skills. A lot of us have a bad start; please learn to be helpful rather than bashing someone who’s quite unhappy already

    As I set wordPress aside, I wonder long and hard what the attraction with it is.

    The attraction for the vst majority of users is that once the site is set up, a normal every-day user can use it, make changes, add content and do things relatively easily without needing to know HTML, CSS, PHP, JavaScript, etc. As a developer, I could do these things myself using a text editor, but when 99.9% of clients that I work with don’t even know what a HTML tag is, let alone how to use one, a CMS like this does make things a whole lot easier.

    From a developers point of view, the initial learning curve is pretty steep when you know what you want to do, but you don’t quite have your head around the internal workings of WordPress. It does take tme to learn and understand – but that’s the same with any CMS out there. Try to do the same things in Drupal, and I’l guarantee that you feel a whole lot more pain then you do with WordPres!

    On Dreamweaver or notepad I can simply go right to the code and make changes with the code.

    That’s the code. Not the content, and that’s the biggest distinction that needs to be made. End users don’t want to coe, they want to write. That’s where a CMS makes it easy.

    @jaycbrf – I’ll also second @saurabhsaneja’s views on your comment…

    Just by your mention of Dreamweaver (a LONG outdated piece of software that NO web developer uses) I can tell that your skill level is not quite up to the task of developing a WordPress site, yet.

    I’ve been a professional web developer for over 10 years, I’ve developed many sites on Dreamweaver, from small single-page HTML-only sits, to massive WordPress/Drupal/custom CMS systems. I work in Dreamweaver, and I use it for it’s file and site management capbilities, not for it’s coding. If you can suggest another IDE that intracts with FTP, SFTP, SVN and GIT as easily as Dreamweaver does, I’d love to know!

    Just remember that the tools don’t make the man. A good developer can use anything that they want to, and putting someone down because of the tool that they choose is very narrow-minded. I hope that you can read this and think about it differently in the future.

    WordPress is the best if you understand that it is slow and that the less plugin and useful functions you put on your website, the less likely it is to have problems !

    it’s one of the most suitable and reliable cms.

    Sorry if my comments sounded so negative –

    Sublime text does all that and more –

    WordPress is not the best or most suitable / reliable.

    There are many CMS’s out there that are good at what they do and some are better than others in certain situations.

    I wasn’t trying to put anyone down I just said that @blabberpen is not ready to develop a WP site YET –

    Have a nice day all!

    I’ve looked at Sublime Text before. Out of the box the editor is good, but it needs extensions or plugins to handle anything more than text editing. There’s no built-in FTP, SVN or GIT anywhere, and the project management is rudimentary at best. For local development, great. For site management, not so great. Personally, it doesn’t do what I need it to do, so I wouldn’t use it. For others I’m sure it’s a great tool that does everything that they need and more.

    The lesson from this is that the tools that each developer uses are their own choice, and don’t make them any more or any less capable of learning and using a new platform.

    I’m the person who posed this question a couple of days ago. I haven’t suddenly fallen in love with WP but the answers have been useful. Thanks.
    Best suggestion I got was that I was in a subject – rather deep – without having the necessary prereqs, and that’s something I hadn’t learned from any other sources.
    This forum is beneficial

    Keep the questions coming, you will be a WorPress pro soon enough!

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