Support » Plugin: Gutenberg » Why does Gutenberg get so much hate here?!

  • Why?
    Pretty easy! It’s available in the core which means most WP users just use it and don’t even know about the plugin where the latest features are always available. So if they like it – they like it. If they hate it – they hate it. They don’t even think about leaving a review here.

    Also: The plugin replaced a solution that was proved by many. A simple rich text editor 🥱🥱. Well it worked.. It was a good solution for bloggers. But WordPress is not only a blogging platform anymore. Many big websites, shops and other are running WordPress. For most of them a simple rte is just not enough.

    So?!
    Don’t listen to all the hate here. Try it out. Maybe you like it 😉

    On GitHub the Gutenberg project currently counts more than 6700 stars. Which means the 2.2k 1 star reviews here are a minority (and those stars are mostly just developers).

    In my opinion the Gutenberg Team did a great job with this plugin. Of course there’s still a long way to go and the editor is far away from being a perfect editor. But.. It evolves. Every update makes the editing experience a little bit better (and hey we’re still in phase 2 of 4 so..)

    All in all: Keep up the great work! Keep pushing updates for both writers and devs!

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  • Stars on Github do only show, that a project is popular. Yes, it could be a rating, but it also could be a bookmark, read here. Many people use stargazing to follow the project, for watching bugs, fork code to develop upon it a plugin/widget/theme etc.

    While here a 1 star (which is mostly meant as -1 star) is a real rating. Often enough you’ll find here a negative review, but the reviewer forgot to set the stars, so it shows 5 stars but meant is 1 star.

    Please respect that not everyone has to like the same thing as you.

    The small but important difference is that people who don’t want to use Gutenberg will eventually be forced to (Classic Editor is officially only supported until the end of this year) and when FSE comes, people will be even more forced to use Gutenberg. While everyone else who likes Gutenberg will not be forced to do anything they don’t want to do.

    Thread Starter Bastian Fießinger

    (@bastianfiessinger)

    I know what stargazing in GitHub is good for. It was just a metric I used for demonstration.

    I could also say there are 300k active installations and even more if we count every WordPress installation above version 5.0. So there’s a maximum of 0,73% users who gave a one star review here (plus like you said the people who have forgotten to adjust the amount of stars).

    There’s not a wide range of metrics I could use here that are perfect or even good for representation, I can only take whats there.

    I do respect that people don’t like it. But many here seem to just hate whats new and dont even want to give it a try.

    Like I mentioned Gutenberg has a long way to go but it’s getting better with every new release.

    And yes you’re right the official Classic Editor plugin is only officially supported until the end of the year, but I don’t think it’ll move completely.

    Hello bastianfiessinger. If you believe that only 0,73% of the users do not like Gutenberg, I recommend visiting the plugin page “Classic Editor”.

    According to Worpdress statistics, more than 5 million sites have the classic editor installed. What will the people who installed that plugin think about Gutenberg? I suspect they don’t like it too much, otherwise they wouldn’t install an external editor.

    In my particular case, I love to edit the code directly and I feel comfortable using the classic editor (except when I need something more complex, like Elementor).

    At the time I tried Gutenberg -when I was forced to do it- and I did not like it, I tested it for 2 weeks and it was not practical for me. Maybe one day I’ll try it again, but as long as the classic suits me, I don’t want to be forced to use another one.

    That is the reason why I gave it 1-star. I don’t know if I represent 0.73%, 0.000001% or 150% of the users, the only think I know is I like the classic editor.

    Gutenberg has gotten a bit better over the two years since it’s release. But it is STILL not as capable as the Classic Editor.

    Inserting links is a “hit or miss” affair because you can only type in a search term. Great for when you remember the name of a page. But you can’t even browse for pages. And whats worse, you can’t browse for media to put links to. I can’t browse for a PDF to link to it. You have to do a stupid dance to insert a File Block, then get the link from there.

    Lists are very limited. You can’t even just put in an indent without bullets.

    I have kept on trying to use Gutenberg over the years and I keep being able to use it for longer and longer. But I always come up against some stupid design decision / limitation where the coding team have arbitrarily decided that I don’t ever need to use different types of lists, indents, inserting items…

    The Gutenberg interface hides things from you that are available in the Classic interface.

    I think the hate comes from the developers arrogance of claiming that this is the best thing to happen to WordPress, with a tool that is LESS capable in many ways than the Classic editor. That certainly made me angry. Mainly because I see that arrogance all the time from developers. “Our way is the best way. WE removed these features FOR YOUR OWN GOOD! Now shut up and like it!”

    The interface is also crappy. It hides everything away from you with this Web 2.0 nonsense. Some people like that. Fine. But give us the option to see tools and so on.

    If Gutenberg is the only thing you have ever used, then sure. It’s clean and easy at first. Just wait until you want to do something that is normal in other editors.

    w3arts

    (@w3arts)

    They made that Editor for people who have an idea how to use it but I think most people are people who want to build a simple page. 5 min click installation but you need hours to figure our how the editor works because it’s not a common editor anymore. People want to save time while adding a post or text and the Gutenberg is costs you more time in the end.

    There is one problem that is often overlooked: Many editors will mess up a site using Gutenberg. The classic editor was very limited in terms of more complex layouts (grids, for example). That is good, since it makes it much harder for the editor to mess up a layout.

    Not so with Gutenberg. The editor wants a fancy grid? You need space for your exciting 4-columns-grid. So, the editor maximizes the width of the content and ends up with 300 characters in one line. The main image is now too small. It doesn’t look good aligned to the left. Centered? Not really! So, let’s crank up the width to 1500px. Oh, the editor ist not familiar with image compression? Who cares? Let’s use the 1.3 megs image. Not to mention the often poor responsiveness of Gutenberg’s grid layouts.

    Having said this, Gutenberg does not make very much sense in a mobile-first approach. You should not optimize your website for a 32-inch 4k display, but for mobile devices. While a pro can handle these problems, the common user can not.

    mathyrious

    (@mathyrious)

    The majority of users of WordPress fall into a few categories. There are those who just want to blog about whatever subject fancies them. They don’t need complex layouts and they generally have their site the way they like it. The only changes may come when WP has a new version and their old theme doesn’t transfer well into it. Other than that, they are pretty much set and don’t care to learn anything new. So why make them plow though documentation on a new editor that is far from anything resembling user friendly? For them, Gutenberg is a deal breaker.

    The second group are webmasters and other power users managing sites. Most of them understand what Gutenberg is about but want more control over how it is implemented. They don’t like the limitations of the editor and can do things better themselves. Here the problem is not having a block editor but having the editor tell you to have those blocks implemented in a manner different than you desire.

    As far as I can tell, the only ones who like Gutenberg are those who want blocks just the way Gutenberg tell you to do it and those who just like playing around with new software tools. For the former, it does what they want and for the latter it is a new toy.

    I kind of fall into both if the first two categories. I was an IT professional so I could certainly learn the ins and outs of Gutenberg but I am more interested in blogging than playing around with an editor. I am retired and had to keep up with new developments in IT all my life and I don’t want to do that anymore. I decided to blog again recently and set up an account with a host that had WP available as I always liked the platform. After spending a few frustrating hours with this mess of an interface, I found a plug in that disabled it. I don’t like Gutenberg and do not want to use it. For those that do, have a great time with it. I found a plug it that got rid of it and everything is just easy. I don’t have a problem with new functionality but don’t force me to use it. If some future version makes the classic editor impossible to use, then I am off WordPress for some other platform.

    • This reply was modified 3 months ago by mathyrious.
    • This reply was modified 3 months ago by mathyrious.
    chicho1969

    (@chicho1969)

    Here is the best use of gutemberg:

    add_filter(‘use_block_editor_for_post_type’, ‘__return_false’, 100);
    add_filter(‘use_block_editor_for_post’, ‘__return_false’, 100);
    add_filter( ‘gutenberg_use_widgets_block_editor’, ‘__return_false’, 100 );
    add_filter( ‘use_widgets_block_editor’, ‘__return_false’ );

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