What comes before?? (28 posts)

  1. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    I am struggling with trying to add information to my templates. Clearly, I am missing something. What comes before:

    How do I find it? I have tried: http://wordpress.org/wp-content/themes/default

    I have tried: http://wired-hub.com/wp-content/themes/default

    And a number of other possibilities. Clearly, this is something that most people know, except me.

  2. moshu
    Posted 11 years ago #

    To add information where?

  3. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Hi moshu. I am trying to put my personal information on my templates.

    For my rose template, this is what the author says:

    If you have WordPress 1.5, simply unzip the archive, maintaining folder
    > structure, into your wp-content/themes/ directory. Then login to your admin
    > panel, click "Presentation" and select Poetic Rose from your list of
    > available themes.
    > To customize:
    > To make this template your own, simply open up the sidebar.php file. The
    > fields between the <center> and </center> tags are available to edit at your
    > will. For instance: find this section of the file
    <div class="aboutme">a</div>
    > <center>Replace this with information about yourself<br>
    > Such as: where you are, who you are, etc.</center>

    For my boring default template, it also says to add/change information, files can be found in : wp-content/themes/default

    Obviously, something must come before that? wp-content....... on it's own, gets me nowhere.

  4. Root
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Julianna those are not strictly uris that will fire up in a browser. You need to make your way to /themes in your ftp client or your theme editor will do it. It is a reference to a folder on your server

  5. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    For instance, if I go to themes and then themes editor, it shows a variety of things.
    "Browsing wp-content/themes/default/style.css"
    is at the top

    I have tried to make changes there, on that page but they don't appear and only get cleared away.

  6. moshu
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Well, I suppose you do NOT want to modify the the files online, do you? I think it would be better to open them in a (text)editor and make the changes you want, then upload them an over write the original.

    But. If you insist on online editing, then under the Presentation menu click Theme Editor, then chose the file you want to edit from the right side list and do it. Warning: In order to be able to edit them first you have to make them writable (CHMOD 666 for example) through your FTP client.

  7. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Obviously, WAY over my head. How in the world do they claim that all of this is so simple???

    I'm a dental hygienist for God's sake. It's like telling someone " just use 11/14 Gracey on the distal of number 19". Go ahead, just do it. If that doesn't work, perhaps you will like a universal 7/8 but only use the toe of the blade.

  8. moshu
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Julianna, I am just a linguist who's mother tongue is not even English :)
    I agree everything is scary at the beginning, but I am sure you can learn and master it. We will do here our best to help you through the first steps.

  9. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Thank you for your humour moshu.

    I am just so completely frustrated.

  10. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    "If this file was writable you could edit it."

    This is what I get on the bottom of my themes editor page.

    This is what it should say:

    "If you are a moron, you need to quit now and pay someone to add your personal information on your blog"

  11. moshu
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Do you have any of the text editors listed here installed on your computer?

  12. moshu
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Be patient, we will go step by step (I've already downloaded the Rose theme), just be patient :)
    (like the patients should be in the dental office, LOL)

  13. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Nooo... it's okay :)

    You need to CHMOD of change the file permissions of the theme files to 666.
    That sounds greek ?

    Look at your website cpanel, file manager and see if those terms are there.

    If you used an ftp client to upload files, then depending on which one you used, there may be something helpful here:

    We're here to help, so do ask as much as you need :)

  14. Root
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Julianna you are not a moron and you are going to be a great asset to the community. Just take one step at a time and you will come to see that WP seems fiddly because it can do lots of stuff All of blogging is based on an illusion - which is that the girl in the street can grapple easily with web dev and server side software. What is sometimes true is you may not be able to do what you want right now . But please do not give up. A hygienist ? Heck there are Bishops and folks with knitting patterns doing WP. :)

  15. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Thank you everyone.

    Here is the problem. Forgive me for being so frank.

    This is my original blog: http://myeggsarecooked.blogspot.com

    It was so simple. I just filled in the blanks of the what about me and it appeared. Now, granted, I did just get someone to make me beautiful over there, but before that, it was so easy.

    I won a year of hosting and web design and blogger servers have been so incredibly SLOW, that I decided to make the move.

    I have been fighting this for three days now.

    I won a free web design but they will not be able to get to me until the end of April, so , stupid me, thought I could get this up and running and then it could be made prettier later.

    I am forced to just leave myself on blogger until I get this worked out.

    Thank you for trying to help.

    It is just SOOOO much more difficult that my previous experience. I think WordPress needs to look into making it more moron friendly.

  16. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 11 years ago #

    If you want to email me, I'll get you up and running.
    I'll need your website cpanel logins, but I've done this sort of things a few times now - trust me, I'm a blogger :)

    tamba2 at gmail dot com

  17. Root
    Posted 11 years ago #

    First I would like to assure you that it is OK to give your ftp details to podz.
    The further good news is that is a fine looking design and is easy to implement once we get you started. It is true that blogger is soooooooooo simple. But WP is far more powerful. Really. We do this. And on the free design - there are more free designs you can use or adapt here than fleas on a dog. And a lot of folk to help.

  18. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Thank you wonderful WP people! You sure are a lot nicer than blogger people!

  19. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Nicer than blogger people ? Hell yes -I've just found one stealing my site !

  20. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Thank you for trying.

    I am going back to blogger.

    This is what my site looks like now: http://www.myeggsarecooked.wired-hub.com

    It is just way too complicated over here.

    Thank you again for trying so hard.

  21. moshu
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Don't give up, Juli! (*grin* you have exactly the same name as my niece)
    Podz just was faster... I also wanted to offer to install it for you - if you wish.
    (my nickname here @ mydomain)

  22. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #


    I can't even do anything now. Did you see it???

  23. Minna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Well, that is *only* an error message. You have to look at the file in question (header.php in the theme folder) and the line in question (20) and the erroneous thing in question (unexpected >). There is probably a typo with an html tag.

    It may be scary when things don't work, but isn't it nice that the programs can tell you, in English, what's bugging them?

  24. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    Word Press is too complicated.

    I am just pissed that I have wasted so much time trying to figure this crap out.

    WP is far from "user friendly" or "easy anything" - the only thing they have going for them is a nice and friendly support group but "that does not a good blog make".

  25. georgianlady
    Posted 11 years ago #


    When you uploaded the WP files you used FTP, right?

    You can use that FTP utility to look at your files on your site. Go to where WP is installed on your site, and navigate in the WP install folders to /wp-content/themes/ and right there is where all the theme folders are. The theme you pick to use is in there, the default and the classic themes come with WP. You can upload other themes to that space too. So if you did, as it sounds like you have ...

    In order to edit the files online in WP Admin, you have the "CHMOD" the theme folders to "666" to make them "writable".

    So if you load a theme in WP ADMIN Theme Editor, and it gives you that message ... then you need to CHMOD to 666.

    Whatever FTP you have it's doable, easier or not. Go to that theme folder you want to edit and right click and choose "Properties" is one possible way you access permissions for files. There is usually some kind of help in an FTP utility to get you to understand how to "set file permissions" which is the same thing as "CHMOD" and "CHMOD" is how one is told to set file permission to a certain level as in CHMOD "777" or CHMOD "666" either setting will allow you to edit those files in WP Admin Theme Editor. "666" is a lower permission level and that's all you need to make them writable, and the setting that is advisable.

    You can also dowload those files and edit them on your computer, then re-upload them to the correct place.

    In your theme folder you will find the names of files, "sidebar.php" if it's there will be where you might be entering your "about" info, somewhere near the top of the file.

    WP is a PHP application. It's a valuable program, much nicer than anything Blogger has. It's not the same as Blogger therefore. You can work with it as it is, without changing anything, but it's some thing that makes for a fun learning time if you jump in and try to understand it and make a go of it.

    There is the codex here:


    which you can read up on how to do things there, and come back here and ask Q's as much as you need to! We love to help newcomers to WP!

    In order to "customize" WP you do need to look at the individual files in your chosen theme.

    Index.php is the Main page, the front page.

    Your posts will show up there first.

    Every post has a permalink page. You can have that page look the same as the index.php front page, or change it's look by using "single.php" which the system will recognize if it's in your theme, and your permalink single archive posts will show up on that when that permalink is clicked.

    There is an Archive Template then which is the page that monthly and category, for instance, archives will show up on when called up.

    That page shows multiples posts, only the "single.php" template shows just one post, with default settings.

    It's easy to use WP just as it is, so it's not fair to say "it's not easy to use". It's easy right out of the box. Customization beyond that is an aquired skill just like anything is, to one degree or another. It's only a need to familiarize yourself with how to edit a file's permissions, and how to edit different theme templates in WP.

    If you stick with it, give it time, do it slowly, before you know it you CAN have your WP site looking as you want it, like you had it at blogspot.

    You can take that and turn it into a theme, you just need to know how.

    So either figuring it out on your own is a good idea, or taking up the offer of someone here to do the conversion of your theme over might be a good idea too. :)

  26. Root
    Posted 11 years ago #

    I hope this thread isnt damaging WP to other readers. WP is very simple but there is an entry requirement. That is the ability to use ftp to put it on your host. If you cant there are pre installed services. Or people like podz who offer to do it voluntarily.

  27. Julianna
    Posted 11 years ago #

    I am starting to calm down a little bit. It is just very difficult for a novice. I made progress by adding some of my personal information......my blog title is still "Poetic Rose" which is none to pleasing but I will keep trying.

    Thank you.

    P.S. Root, this is reality for someone who is used to the simplicity of something like blogger. Perhaps WP is better in the long run, but it is a rude awakening for someone like me. Even the words "CHMOD" and "666" and "FTP" are words or initials that I have never, ever needed to know about until coming over to "WP".

    It is a lot like me describing my dental instruments for certain tooth numbers...........Gracey 12/14 on the distal of number 28.

    Have you ever heard of that before? Have you ever needed to know that before? Do you care? Is it a pain to have to learn it?

  28. NuclearMoose
    Posted 11 years ago #

    I learned how to use WordPress simply by working with it. I know virtually nothing about PHP. I have learned some CSS and other things while building/breaking/rebuilding/rebreaking my site over the past couple of years. I went through some very frustrating times myself.

    I've been around to see WordPress used by teenaged geniuses all the way to retired RVers who like to post their adventures online. It can be learned, but you have to learn some other aspects of online "work". It can be a steep curve for some, but it's worth it in the end.

    I know from personal experience how much stuff you had to cram into your brain to become a dental hygenist. WordPress and web stuff can be mastered by someone who has the intelligence that you have. Medial, distal, and lingual surfaces on a tooth, right? ;) There may be more, but I only remember those. Lingual is the "tongue-side" of the tooth, I think.

    I'm a glow-in-the-dark-moose from northeast British Columbia, and I make maps for a living. Trust me, if I can do this, then so can you. Keep at it, and we'll all do everything we can to help you through it all. :)

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