Title: Weird formatting problem
Last modified: August 18, 2016

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# Weird formatting problem

 *  [johncsnider](https://wordpress.org/support/users/johncsnider/)
 * (@johncsnider)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/)
 * For some strange reason, this page…
 * [http://www.americanfreethought.com/wordpress/about-john-c-snider/](http://www.americanfreethought.com/wordpress/about-john-c-snider/)
 * …has a huge amount of white space at the top. None of the other pages I’ve created
   has this problem, for example…
 * [http://www.americanfreethought.com/wordpress/about/](http://www.americanfreethought.com/wordpress/about/)
 * Any ideas?
 * Thanks!

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 *  [shadow](https://wordpress.org/support/users/shadow/)
 * (@shadow)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-636924)
 * They both look the same to me – no huge amount of white space on either.
 * Have you already fixed the problem?
 *  Thread Starter [johncsnider](https://wordpress.org/support/users/johncsnider/)
 * (@johncsnider)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-636938)
 * shadow,
 * No, I haven’t changed anything, but when I look at them myself, I still see this
   problem.
 * One thing I’ve noticed: on the page with all the white space, the title “About
   John C. Snider” actually begins *exactly* on the line *below* the last line in
   the SideBar! In fact, I added information to the SideBar to see if it was a coincidence,
   but it’s not. The title line starts exactly at the bottom of the SideBar.
 * Any other ideas? Help! Please! 🙂
 *  Thread Starter [johncsnider](https://wordpress.org/support/users/johncsnider/)
 * (@johncsnider)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-636939)
 * On a whim, I logged onto my wife’s computer and went to the website. On her browser
   EVERY page’s content begins just below the end of the SideBar! We have different
   model computers and she’s on Vista while I’m on XP.
 *  [shadow](https://wordpress.org/support/users/shadow/)
 * (@shadow)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-636943)
 * Just looked at in IE 7 and yes all the pages are loading below your sidebar. 
   It will be an incorrectly placed div, either after your sidebar or after your
   page code. In fact, a quick look at your source and I think you may have 4 divs
   after your page ends when it should only be 3.
 * Sorry, don’t have the time right this minute to go right over it though.
 * Just check your div’s for correct closing tags.
 *  Thread Starter [johncsnider](https://wordpress.org/support/users/johncsnider/)
 * (@johncsnider)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-636944)
 * Well, I’m no coder so most of what you said just went right over my head. I’m
   just using the templates, so surely I’m not the only person with this problem.
 * Are you looking at the source code in the SideBar, or for the page? How would
   I know if I have too many “div’s”?
 * Thanks!
 *  [kmessinger](https://wordpress.org/support/users/kmessinger/)
 * (@kmessinger)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637000)
 * You can validate your code [ here.](http://validator.w3.org/)
 * That will show you where your errors are.
 *  Thread Starter [johncsnider](https://wordpress.org/support/users/johncsnider/)
 * (@johncsnider)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637004)
 * Thanks for the tip. I did that , but it found no errors and says the page is “
   validated”.
 * Now what?
 * Thanks
 *  [kmessinger](https://wordpress.org/support/users/kmessinger/)
 * (@kmessinger)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637015)
 * The code <div id=”leftside”> just before your post is pushing your entry down
   as far as I can tell.
 *  Thread Starter [johncsnider](https://wordpress.org/support/users/johncsnider/)
 * (@johncsnider)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637116)
 * Sorry to be a hard-head, but exactly what page are you looking at to find that
   code? <div id=”leftside”> When I view the source for the page “About John C. 
   Snider” (which is where I see this problem) I can’t find that sequence.
 * For what it’s worth, I had a friend pull up the site on his Apple and the pages
   look perfectly fine. On my Windows XP just the one page has a problem. On my 
   wife’s Vista every page has the problem.
 * Anyway, a little guidance on how to find this problem code you mentioned would
   be most welcome. Thanks!
 *  [moshu](https://wordpress.org/support/users/moshu/)
 * (@moshu)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637122)
 * While the OS (operating system) of a machine is good info, the browser you are
   using to see your site might give more information for troubleshooting. e.g. 
   Win XP FireFox = OK.
    Win XP and IE6 = not OK… Mac (aka Apple) and Safari or 
   FF etc.
 * Anyway: that `<div id="leftside">` is present on EVERY page/post of yours, since
   it is part of your theme’s layout. (Bad layout, BTW, putting the content at the
   end…)
    But in the Page that doesn’t behave you have some odd coding in the paragraph
   tags: `<p align="left">` – remove that, make it just `<p>` That’s the only difference
   I see on that Page.
 *  [moshu](https://wordpress.org/support/users/moshu/)
 * (@moshu)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637127)
 * Oh, I just remembered something…
    If the above correction doesn’t work – try 
   to remove (at least temporarily) all the _italics_ from that Page; practically
   delete the `<em>` and `</em>` tags from it. Let’s see…
 *  Thread Starter [johncsnider](https://wordpress.org/support/users/johncsnider/)
 * (@johncsnider)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637132)
 * Okay, I’ll give that a shot – probably tomorrow night.
 * But while I’m at it – what you do you mean by “bad layout, putting the content
   at the end”? I’m just typing the content directly into the box on the page form.
 *  [kmessinger](https://wordpress.org/support/users/kmessinger/)
 * (@kmessinger)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637133)
 * moshu would know better than I.
 * The code is about 3/4 of the way down in an editor, just before your post. Although
   deleting it makes the post move up, it causes other problems.
 * BTW, I looked at all your navigation and all pages show the down problem in IE7.
 * Sorry I can’t be more helpful at this time.
 *  [moshu](https://wordpress.org/support/users/moshu/)
 * (@moshu)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637135)
 * Oh, the “bad layout” wasn’t referring at you – it was about the theme designer/
   coder. If you look at your source code… everything else comes **before** the 
   real content (post or Page). The code starts with the sidebar, which is nonsense
   in the case of a _right_ sidebar!
 *  Thread Starter [johncsnider](https://wordpress.org/support/users/johncsnider/)
 * (@johncsnider)
 * [18 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/weird-formatting-problem/#post-637142)
 * Should I just ditch this theme altogether? I just picked something from WordPress’s
   list o’ themes.
 * I’ve noticed that a lot of the advice I’m getting back is about “coding” issues.
   I started using a blog utility so I wouldn’t HAVE to code! I want to be able 
   to just use the forms and templates and move right on, not get bogged down doing
   line reading.

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