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  • Had a problem with the implementation and the developer explained it and pointed me in the right direction. It does and offers a lot more than I thought it did.

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  • Plugin Author Roy Sivan

    (@guavaworks)

    IceComm is completely free to use. up to a certain point.
    From their website:
    “All features, standard support and up to 50 Monthly unique active users”
    That is pretty 100% free and you’d only need to pay once you hit over 50 unique active concurrent users. (1 video chat with more then 50 people). I trust IceComm and their infrastructure to support and grow with anyone’s needs.

    I’m sorry IceComm is not in the description, I’ll make sure to remedy that with my next push.

    As far as the $1/mo. Not sure where that comes from. my plugin is online here on the WordPress repo, completely open sourced and free to use. 100% FREE. Not just is it 100% free for everyone to use, I come back consistently to resolve support tickets, and work with everyone who downloads it when I can to make sure it works, the only payment I take is for the premium version of the plugin which offers more features.

    Thank you for your response. How is it open source and free to use if you are forced to use IceComm and IceComm charges if you go over certain usage?

    Why not make that optional? You didn’t require that before, why now? Especially since they aren’t really doing anything if you never need more than a few users…

    Just another random hand in the pot and someone else to get an API key from who keeps getting pings from your server for no reason… 🙁

    I’m sure if you need the money, people would much rather support you directly. I know I would.

    Plugin Author Roy Sivan

    (@guavaworks)

    Open Source = you can take the code and use it as you wish
    Free = you don’t need to pay for my code here, or icecomm for bare minimum.

    Just like many other plugins (just like your fav BARC) they run on a freemium model.. Free up to a certain point.

    Why did I choose icecomm? before turning to icecomm the plugin was using ANOTHER library called SimpleWebRTC, great and free except TURN/SIGNAL servers were set identically on all plugins, so you had the potential of seeing someone else’s conversation or entering someone else’s video chat. NOT GOOD. Once I uncovered this potential flaw I quickly switched up the library.

    I don’t need the money, i want to create FREE and open source software for you to use, but I can’t build it all, and hand it all away. If you want me to build what icecomm has, I can’t, especially not for free. So if you need more then 50 unique concurrent users, and don’t want to pay.. this is not the plugin for you. If you are getting more then 50 unique concurrent visitors, and not monetizing, maybe there is an issue since icecomm’s base plan is pretty affordable.

    Moderator Jan Dembowski

    (@jdembowski)

    Forum Moderator and Brute Squad

    Thank you for your response. How is it open source and free to use if you are forced to use IceComm and IceComm charges if you go over certain usage?

    This plugin is an interface to a service, in this case IceComm. The software is free. You can do anything you like with it, modify it, give it to everyone you know, etc.

    The service is not free. That’s alright as this is software as a service.

    Plugin Author Roy Sivan

    (@guavaworks)

    exactly. I’m not forcing you to pay for IceComm, but if you want a need a premium service to run your video chat(s) than unfortunately yes, it is not free. IceComm is a SAAS model, my plugin is 100% free and open source.

    OK I see. 50 concurrent users at any time? That is a pretty high limit actually… who would ever even reach that for a single small/medium business? As I understood it, the limit was 50 users on your site. My apologies.

    Can you clarify this please:

    What is IceComm doing exactly? Why are their services necessary? Is there some sort of socket handshaking/routing going on?

    Plugin Author Roy Sivan

    (@guavaworks)

    @njsteele

    Check out this article which talks about the whole process.

    v1 of wpRTC used 1 turn/signal server as a backup, so 2 people could potentially see each others video broadcast. Since I wanted an EASY to use plugin that was more or less plug and play, I decided to use IceComm. IceComm does all the heavy lifting of the TURN/ / SIGNAL servers as well as creating cross-browser friendly code for the webRTC itself.

    All in all, wpRTC is a much more functional plugin because of IceComm, and way more secure. I could have hid the fact that there was a major flaw in v1, since I was still learning about webRTC when I built it.. but I have been open about it on my blog and in version updates. My goal is just to create good, free plugins. If not on the repo here on my GitHub account for easier update/maintenance and community involvement.

    At the end of the day this review turned out to be a misreading or misunderstanding?

    I would suggest then that author shouldn’t ‘pay’ for it with a one-star review. That would generally be considered rude and not the type of thing we want to see in this community, especially when you consider the developer’s time to offer the integration free of charge.

    Cheers

    OK, sorry then. I can see I was way off with how things are. After comparing BARC, it’s not nearly what they advertise either.

    I can’t figure out how to change my rating or adjust/delete it, can I ask for a last favor for help on that?

    Moderator Jan Dembowski

    (@jdembowski)

    Forum Moderator and Brute Squad

    I can’t figure out how to change my rating or adjust/delete it, can I ask for a last favor for help on that?

    @njsteele Use this link.

    https://wordpress.org/support/view/plugin-reviews/wprtc-real-time-video-for-wp#postform

    You can change your stars and text of your review that way.

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