Title: Visibility Vs Accountable
Last modified: May 22, 2022

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# Visibility Vs Accountable

 *  Resolved [rod](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nomadarod/)
 * (@nomadarod)
 * [4 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visibility-vs-accountable/)
 * Hi,
 * It seems there is a bug, when I select “hidden” in the “inscription(s)” and “
   Restant” they still show in the preview and in the form after updating.
 * Also, I understand that I can develop logical conditions with the “visibility”
   parameter and so include or not variables in the end Total. But I would like 
   to hide these calculations and present them rather in an HTML field. But then
   I don’t have the logical condition in the “visibility” anymore. Is there a way
   to hide them but still have the logical conditions? I don’t understand how to.
 * Thanks
    Rod
 * The page I need help with: _[[log in](https://login.wordpress.org/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpress.org%2Fsupport%2Ftopic%2Fvisibility-vs-accountable%2F%3Foutput_format%3Dmd&locale=en_US)
   to see the link]_

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 *  Thread Starter [rod](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nomadarod/)
 * (@nomadarod)
 * [4 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visibility-vs-accountable/#post-15667703)
 * An image is worth a 1000 words:
    [https://monosnap.com/file/vaB7Cz6CXNv27A9lBhLvERdSsZHxC7](https://monosnap.com/file/vaB7Cz6CXNv27A9lBhLvERdSsZHxC7)
 * I mean, how can I make the variables “-10% (2 acompagnants)”, “Inscription(s)”,“
   Restant”, and “Total à payer” be taken into consideration for the calculation,
   when these conditions are present, but still not show on the form?
 *  Plugin Support [Patrick – WPMU DEV Support](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpmudevsupport12/)
 * (@wpmudevsupport12)
 * [4 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visibility-vs-accountable/#post-15668039)
 * Hi [@nomadarod](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nomadarod/)
 * Sorry to hear you are having this issue.
 * Could you please export your form and share it using Pastebin or Google drive
   so we can take a closer look?
 * [https://wpmudev.com/docs/wpmu-dev-plugins/forminator/#import-export](https://wpmudev.com/docs/wpmu-dev-plugins/forminator/#import-export)
 * Best Regards
    Patrick Freitas
 *  Thread Starter [rod](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nomadarod/)
 * (@nomadarod)
 * [4 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visibility-vs-accountable/#post-15668152)
 * Hi Patrick,
    Thank you for being there.
 * Here is the paste: [https://pastebin.com/X1acMuXZ](https://pastebin.com/X1acMuXZ)
 * cheers,
    Rod
 *  Plugin Support [Laura – WPMU DEV Support](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpmudev-support8/)
 * (@wpmudev-support8)
 * [4 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visibility-vs-accountable/#post-15670253)
 * Hi [@nomadarod](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nomadarod/)
 * Thanks for sharing the form!
 * I admit I’m still not quite sure how this should work but if I understand correctly,
   you want to use certain fields in calculations conditionally but keep them hidden
   all the time.
 * If yes then it’s not possible because those visibility rules (maybe it is a bit“
   unfortunate” name of the feature) are more than just showing/hiding field. They
   are, on purpose, created to also show/hide field “functionally”, so to say.
 * It’s expected that a field that’s hidden will not be used in calculation.
 * The workaround for this – to keep fields “visually hidden” all the time but used
   them conditionally anyway would be to “forcefully” hide selected fields with 
   CSS.
 * For example, for “Inscriptions” calculation, with current setting of “Visibility”,
   you would need to add following CSS to the custom CSS option in form’s “Appearance”
   settings:
 * `#calculation-5 {display:none!important;}`
 * This will keep that calculation field “visually hidden” all the time while the“
   visibility condition” would still work letting you “conditionally use” the field’s
   value.
 * The same way you can address other fields that you want to “use conditionally”
   but keep invisible on form all the time.
 * Best regards,
    Adam
 *  Thread Starter [rod](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nomadarod/)
 * (@nomadarod)
 * [4 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visibility-vs-accountable/#post-15686385)
 * Hi Adam,
    Strange that I don’t see my reply here. Anyway, it was pretty effective
   with the CSS. Thank you for your support
 * Best regards
    Rod
 *  Thread Starter [rod](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nomadarod/)
 * (@nomadarod)
 * [4 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visibility-vs-accountable/#post-15688014)
 * Hi,
 * I used the css you shared in order to hide the fields in question. But when they
   are used in the calculations (visible but hidden by css), they create a blank
   space in the form because of the bottom-margin.
 * I can add a class `hidden-row` to the different {calculation} fields but the 
   margin is a quality of the entire row. How do I select the row through css?
 * Thanks
    Rod
 *  Plugin Support [Laura – WPMU DEV Support](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpmudev-support8/)
 * (@wpmudev-support8)
 * [4 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visibility-vs-accountable/#post-15691370)
 * Hi [@nomadarod](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nomadarod/)
 * This would be a bit more tricky but doable.
 * You can use CSS like this:
 *     ```
       .forminator-row:nth-of-type(3) {
           display:none!important;
       }
       ```
   
 * The number is the “number of element with class “.forminator-row” counted from
   first occurence, from “0”. I used a random one here so you’ll need to find correct
   number(s) on your form (you may need to look into page source code as there also
   may already be some hidden rows – they are not visible but are counted in this
   case).
 * I also used rule to hide the row but you can replace display:none with any rules
   you need.
 * Best regards,
    Adam
 *  Thread Starter [rod](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nomadarod/)
 * (@nomadarod)
 * [4 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visibility-vs-accountable/#post-15691598)
 * Hi Adam,
 * Thank you so much! That did it.
 * Best regards
    Rod

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