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  • I had an interesting discussion about the relative value of CSS as part of a tool set for building sites.
    The person I was chatting with maintains that:

    The value of css goes not much further than design separation and prettiness.

    I’m interested in hearing what your opinions are about CSS. This is not about “right” or “wrong;” rather, this is simply about perspectives.
    This is NOT a flamewar, folks, this is a discussion, and I hope that you treat it as such. I will ask admins to remove the thread if it degrades into chaos.

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  • I’ve just started learning CSS over the past 2 months or so and I don’t know what I would do without it! Creating and maintaining pages with a consistent layout and design would be a nightmare. I’m nowhere near being an expert, but am getting pretty good at doing what I need to do with it. I’m sure I could be doing this or that a different way (Moose, you could probably rip my CSS to shreds!), but it’s getting the job done for now until I learn different techniques.

    I am by no means a CSS expert…but I like what it can do, and I have learned a lot through trying to solve problems that I have had as well as helping out people with some of their difficulties. Like a few others around her, I often grab style sheets and just mess around with them to see what happens when I do this or that. I’m also a big fan of Firebird/Mozilla, as there are some excellent extensions available which can help you narrow down problems. The Web Developer’s Toolbar, the EditCSS extension are just two I can think of off the top of my cube.
    Also, if the CSS works the way you want it to, then there is nothing wrong with it! Sure, maybe there might be some shortcuts to save you some typing and the like, but if it works, it works, so that means you have done what you have set out to do. As with most things, CSS allows 10 different people to arrive at the same destination 10 different ways; all the while being totally valid. Keep slogging away at it! That’s the best advice I can give. 🙂
    Oh, yeah…have fun, too!

    The value of css goes not much further than design separation and prettiness.

    I’d say that goes a pretty long way already. Separation of form and content is crucial for accessibility purposes as well as making sites easier to tweak and maintain. As for ‘prettiness’, what on earth is wrong with that? Far too many people confuse usability with unattractiveness.

    I was never trying to say CSS was bad, CSS is very nice. I think NuclearMoose got a bit confused, I just don’t think CSS is amazing as everyone makes out. Then again, i’m not easily excited.

    I never thought that you thought that I thought that you thought that CSS was bad. I thought that you thought that CSS was “fine” in and of itself, but that it wasn’t that big of a deal. Is that thought what you thought that I was thinking when I thought what you had thought?
    Anyway, check out this example of the possibilities of CSS.

    Precisely 😉
    CSS pencils is entirely pointless and proves nothing other than it’s possible to align a bunch of DIVs very precisely.




    I too saw the pencils demo, and thought, “hey that’s pretty cool.” Almost immediatly, I also thought “BFD! Some one has way too much time on their hands, and that’s of no real practical use other than ego-inflation.” Where I think the power of CSS really lies in the ability to quickly change the look & feel of a website. Our company website is a prime example. In the last round of changes, I moved things into DIV tags, and began a style sheet. This allowed me to set all of the P text to one color, define additional colors for headers, and links. Nothing spectacular in this, other than subsequant changes became easier. Now I can change one file rather than open all of the individual pages, and get the effect I want.
    CSS has some interesting tricks up its sleeves that I think are neat. Amazing? No, but cool none the less.

    I’ll agree that most geegaws are indeed just that, but consider that, sometimes, people use code in ways not originally expected, which leads to applications that no one ever dreamed of.
    I mean, who’d ever think to use Perl to maintain a personal Web site? Isn’t Perl just a Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister anyway?
    [Wait … Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish describes most of my posts. eep.]

    Its precisely the problem of using code in ways other than originally planned that got us into all this trouble with tables.

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