To breaking point with the stupid visual editor

It is hard for me to fully diagnose what you have already tried, or to diagnose any plugin conflicts you may or may not have, and/or your web development experience level if any, so this response may or may not be helpful to you.

If you’re simply talking about an image you’ve inserted by clicking IMG then you may be interested in how to format the IMG tag so that it effects how the text is displayed in proximity to the image… The best way to do so would be modifying the CSS file of your WordPress Theme.
http://www.createbetterwebsites.com/html-img-tags.html (takes a little wordpress/html knowhow or referencing but this would be the professional solution)

You could just try inserting
tags in the HTML view after the image, two of them after any image should give you 1 line of whitespace, and + 1 lines for every
tag afterward.

The
tag stands for break, and that’s exactly what it does it creates one vertical line break downward from the original text line.

Haha, adeptris posts as I’m typing. Between these two posts, I’m guesing you’ll have your solution.

KIRK… If you’re still lurking

and anyone else having same or similar problems with VISUAL EDITOR in WP3.1.xx while using Theme 2010.

I have FIXED my issue described above. It “appears” that when text and images are co mingled, AND any single character or string of characters (text) has its font SIZE changed, the aforementioned problem exists.

Last night I “re-wrote” the offending post, included the same three pix but did NOT attempt to change the font size. Bold, underline, italicized all seem to work… and as long as the DEFAULT font size is allowed, the resultant saved and published missive appears “normal” and without “extra” line spaces that were not intentionally invoked. I checked the HTML to locate any extraneous
indicators and none were found.

The conclusion must be that changing font size, WITH embedded images, interferes with character spacing, resulting in extraneous line spaces that appear to be “extra carriage returns”, thus disrupting the alignment as mentioned.

A “plain” (no images) text posting seems to work okay even when font size is changed from default. When an image is embedded into the target text, the visual editor goes randomly nuts and the appearance of the published work is unpredictable.

One other quirk I noticed was intermittent and random “jerking” up and down of the text material inside the Visual Editor — but only if any of the characters therein had been size changed from default. And, that little bit had nothing to do with an errant “mouse” as I even pulled the plug on mouse and observed the jerking mentioned.

Arrrrrrrgggg!!

— Bill Ford

I think somewhere up there was a question . . .

Have you tried:

– deactivating all plugins (yes, all) to see if this resolves the problem. If this works, re-activate the plugins one by one until you find the problematic plugin(s). Don’t forget the ones in mu-plugins. If you can’t get into your admin dashboard, try resetting the plugins folder by FTP or PhpMyAdmin. Sometimes, an apparently inactive plugin can still cause problems.

– switching to the Twenty Eleven theme to rule out any theme-specific problems.

kmessinger

Thank you sir for your response…
Interestingly enough, I read elsewhere about deactivating plug-ins, and deleating unused. I had already done that (I had only 3 plug ins on my relatively new site). That didn’t change anything in the Visual Editor, and as of today, I have theme 2011. The problem persists in a test that was not publically posted.

Not being a “programmer” I can only analyze and expound on observations and any annomolies that seem to be present during the fault, then try to figure a way around it.

BTW…. what IS “mu-plugins”?

Thanks

–bf

On the Visual Editor screen, above the type-it-here screen, there are two rows of “buttons” featuring, bold, italic….. link, unlink, etc. Below that row on the left is a “button” titled “Format”. When clicked a drop-down appears, in which are titles such as: Paragraph, address, preformatted, HEADING 1,2,3,4,5 & HEADING 6. The smaller the number the larger the font where 5 would be roughly equiv to 12 pt type. Highlighting selected text, then invoking Format, select the “size” and the text changes to that chosen size — albeit with currently squirrely results to the general layout of the text file, if there are any imbedded images.

Computer…. an XP, IE8 AND I even tried Google Chrome with same results. I had removed (as in deleted) the three plug-ins I had but the same problem persisted. As far as Java is concerned, I only do that first thing in the morning — straight outa the pot. Now, if this were back in the days of B.A.S.I.C. (circa late 70s-mid 80s) I’d be able to hold my own, but this era ain’t that era. Back then, I’d program something from the bottom up — that is, I’d set what “results” I needed then programmed the thing as subroutines to accomplish the task.

When it comes to CSS, JAVA scripts, PHP and even HTML, they are beyond my comprehension, although HTML is a little easier to understand. And, at my age, I ain’t got the time to learn 4 or 5 new languages — hell, I have enough trouble with English and Spanish as it is! 🙂

But, hey kmessinger; I do appreciate your kind input. It certainly helps — such as mu for multi user…. makes perfect sense. As SPOCK might say, “… interestingly logical.”

–bf

Hi…
I didn’t just trash the errant example, I ensured it wasn’t there in case there “might” be a conflict… so, I deleted it permanently just in case. Of course, I could recreate a “sample” for you if you like and post the URL to that page.

JAVA… jeeeeze… I hope it doesn’t come with cream ‘n sugar. Ruins the stuff. I did the “test” which resulted in:

No working Java was detected on your system.
Install Java by clicking the button below.

I have not “yet” installed it. I’ll wait till 2 in the morning for “downloads” at a time when bandwidth is “wider”.

BASIC… ahhhh yes. Trash 80s they waz… The RS tape decks did have the problem of maintaining a constant speed… we used a makeshift constant current/voltage in lieu of the batteries. Back then, we were lucky to get “PONG” to run right. Say, do you remember Harv Pennington’s TRS-80 DISK & OTHER MYSTERIES manuals/books? Quite a series we had. I was just the Publications Director, not the programmer writing the books. How ’bout the first wordprocessor that could globally search and replace a character or string of characters… we called that “software” Electric Pencil – written by Mike Shrayer out of Arizona. Our (we were called IJG COMPUTER SYSTEMS) first trash 80 was put to work as a jewler’s diamond appraisal system as the “owner” of IJG (which stood for International Jewelry Guild) was a certified Appraiser by the Gemological Institute of America. That’s basically how we got into the “biz” of writing stuff for appraisals. Our first device was actually written and operated on a TI-59 programmable “calculator” with a printer attached. When the trash 80 came along, we thought we were in financial heaven. The technology moved forward so fast that we couldn’t keep up… but we had fun (and decent profits) while it lasted.

My personal “first” box was an AMSI kit… booted up with toggle switches and a punched tape !!!! Then I’d sit there watching the idiot lights blink… and didn’t know why.

Back to the “example page”, to get back on point. The current “version” is at http://wp.joshuatreestar.com/?p=1174 … I can recreate the “other” version and post that too.

— bf

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Well, good to know that all those browsers “see” it okay. And, I didn’t know about the “is my blog working” site… I’ll save that info. Thanks.

Latest v of WP is of course, 3.2.x I had not decided “yet” to upgrade. One of the fundamental reasons goes way back prior to Bill Gates (et al) in that I’d prefer all the others out there who just “need” to have the latest and greatest on their systems… and report on the bugs as they come up. After a while, the quantity of “bugs” being reported slows down considerably in a short few months as the vendor issues “fixes”. That’s about the time “I” get more interested in “upgrading”. However, given that I’m new to WP in the first place, I surely couldn’t do any worse with 3.2 than I am with 3.1.3. I still have bad memories of “upgrading” things when the upgrade would sometimes overwrite stuff and/or “block” use of data in the previous version. So, I’m a bit “gun shy”. Which brings up a question. On WP, it appears, but I’ve not gotten any confirmation, that one can utilize more than one THEME on the same site. I’m actually afraid to “install” the theme 2011 and then find out that it “took over” what was already accomplished on 2010. As you can see “kmessinger” (I wunner what his first name is) I’m still learning how to navigate this new (to me) world of running a web site.

“…a particular area that was wrong?” Well, geographically speaking, the “added line breaks” that I didn’t impose were placed in what I have to describe as “random” locations but certainly associated with the image. While the text would “wrap” around the image, in doing so, it would inject the equiv of 3 to 5 or 8 (pick any number) breaks. Tell ya what… just for the grins of it, I’ll recreate some text, insert a couple images and resize the font. Oh, and it didn’t matter if I resized the text (the whole text — I wasn’t resizing just a word or sentence or a single paragraph. A global resize of all the text) before or after inserting the images. If I inserted any image into a resized text batch the problem popped up. No image… problem goes away. Or, no resizing but with images (as you saw) no problem. If I typed my text (default font size), inserted images, THEN resized the font, the problem is back. There is a definite correlation between images embedded into resized font text.

Let me recreate another so one can “see” the results. Oh… HTML for break “
” (I wunner if that will show up here)… I looked for that based on another in this thread that spoke of using that as a means of “increasing” line spacing. I found none at all and I had not inserted any.

Film at Eleven…

I’ll post the URL for the squirrely display when I get posted.

Hey… you good people my friend, you’ve stuck with this. Much appreciated sir.

–bf
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