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  • Don’t bother me with this plugin, we never wanted this…also there are many better block editors. This should be removed from the WordPress core asap.

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  • Sorry to hear this, @imdapaolo. The Block Editor is a part of the core software now, so if there are specific ways in which we can improve this, please elaborate.

    For example, what do you like about other block editors? What don’t you like about Gutenberg? Thanks for your time.

    Hi @imdapaolo 🙂 I’d like to add something to your review for @mapk

    A good block editor: Enfold Avia Builder.
    What it can do(and Gutenberg can’t) is:
    – You can see what you are building. Columns, sections, layout
    – It’s responsive friendly each block has lots of display options
    – each block has different meta data for color/look-and-feel etc with clear menu options css options and explanation of what it does or how it can be used
    – When needed you can see the complete source of a page and edit it (debug mode on). Perfect for search replace in a complete page. (like users who copy pasted from MS word including the unwanted MSO styles 🙁 )
    – When using an import with WP-All-Import you can arrange for the page structure to be imported too. I would not know where to start with Gutenberg
    – There is a visible, categorised library of blocks that you can drag and drop in your page.
    – you can see what options the text-editor has. It is always visible while editing (*instead of Gutenberg who hides all options and I have to click a lot to see what I can do on each specific block). Look at TinyMCE advanced and what it can add.
    – When designing a page I’m not always sure what to get. Shall I use a list? Just a text, maybe a h3 and a text… With TinyMCE you can quickly edit this. With Gutenberg you have to switch blocks. And sometimes move stuff from a blok to another block. And it is VERY time consuming to fiddle to get a nice page. With TinyMCE you could just select a text. Click H3 and be done. And if you’d think it should be in a list you just clicked on the list item and it was a list. With Gutenberg Not so much.

    So. We tried Gutenberg. Its not for us. Please remove it until it is release ready.
    Make more titles/onhover/instructions to educate people what all the shortcut keys are. Make it more intuitive so you can see what you can do without clicking everywhere to figure out what possibilities lie underneath.
    A clean editor is nice; but I bought a 27″ monitor… USE THAT SPACE! Show me more. 🙂

    Good luck

    /rant

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by Pixelbits.

    Thanks for replying @pixelbits.

    What it can do(and Gutenberg can’t) is:
    – You can see what you are building. Columns, sections, layout

    You mention that you can’t see what you are building in Gutenberg. I’m a bit unclear here. Can you clarify this?

    It’s responsive friendly each block has lots of display options

    There are recent efforts to include more responsive settings in Gutenberg too!

    There is a visible, categorised library of blocks that you can drag and drop in your page.

    Gutenberg has this too! It’s activated by clicking the + icon. But you don’t need to drag and drop them. Just click on it and it’s added!

    you can see what options the text-editor has. It is always visible while editing (*instead of Gutenberg who hides all options and I have to click a lot to see what I can do on each specific block).

    This seems to reveal a core philosophy of WordPress: Less options, more decisions. Gutenberg, because it’s a part of Core has adopted this philosophy as well.

    With TinyMCE you could just select a text. Click H3 and be done.

    Sounds like that works just like Gutenberg. Click the text you want to change and click the transform option to switch it to a heading.

    Thanks for giving it a try! We’re looking to improve it continually, so anytime you’d like to request for more features, please let us know!

    Pixelbits

    (@pixelbits)

    You mention that you can’t see what you are building in Gutenberg. I’m a bit unclear here. Can you clarify this?

    Get yourself a copy of Enfold Theme. Try it. See the real difference. One is intuitive, one is not. 🙂 It’s about using the screenspace. Showing what options there are (not hiding them underneath (unnecessary extra mouseclicks).

    There are recent efforts to include more responsive settings in Gutenberg too!

    That is great. But still Gutenberg is the default editor while it still isn’t ready for release. That is my point (and of > 5mln Classic Editor Installers).

    Gutenberg has this too! It’s activated by clicking the + icon. But you don’t need to drag and drop them. Just click on it and it’s added!

    Yeah nice, but no where near as friendly as existing pagebuilders like Enfold, Elementor, Divi(not the best example), Avada. My clients can use those. And they can’t use Gutenberg. That is saying something. Look at what the others are doing right. Gutenberg is not a dead end; def not. But it it still too soon to be released as the new default editor.

    This seems to reveal a core philosophy of WordPress: Less options, more decisions. Gutenberg, because it’s a part of Core has adopted this philosophy as well.

    Yeah, not really the best solution looking at how many people revert back to TinyMCE.

    Sounds like that works just like Gutenberg. Click the text you want to change and click the transform option to switch it to a heading.

    Except in Tiny I can SEE all options before I need them. I kan think about the possibilities. I can switch more easy between lists, text or whatever. This requires more clicks in Gutenberg. More clicks = bad. Bulk actions is better. Seeing options is better. We can discuss about how to display the options; but we can’t discuss more clicks. This is our day-job here. Adding 2 clicks for a function means a thousands of extra clicks for me a year. Hiding options means a lot of people searching for possibilities and unhiding those when needed.

    Moderator Steve Stern

    (@sterndata)

    Support Team Volunteer

    This has gone past the purpose of a review, which is to record a user’s experience with a plugin. I’m closing the topic.

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