Title: Special Field Notations
Last modified: October 19, 2021

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# Special Field Notations

 *  Resolved [timogoedeke](https://wordpress.org/support/users/timogoedeke/)
 * (@timogoedeke)
 * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/)
 * Hi,
 * super excited for the pods 2.8 release as I was waiting to use special field 
   notations. Tried this after today’s update, but I don’t get any results using
   the following:
 * [if _position=”1″]First item in the list[/if]
    [if field=”_total” value=”1″ compare
   =”<“]No items in the list[/if]
 * Using the references from pods.io documentation:
    [https://docs.pods.io/displaying-pods/template-tags/if-conditional-tag/#New_in_Pods_28_Special_field_notations](https://docs.pods.io/displaying-pods/template-tags/if-conditional-tag/#New_in_Pods_28_Special_field_notations)
 * The page I need help with: _[[log in](https://login.wordpress.org/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpress.org%2Fsupport%2Ftopic%2Fspecial-field-notations%2F%3Foutput_format%3Dmd&locale=en_US)
   to see the link]_

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 *  Plugin Author [Scott Kingsley Clark](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sc0ttkclark/)
 * (@sc0ttkclark)
 * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/#post-14984380)
 * The _total won’t work here because no template runs if there are no items (_total
   = 0). If you check out the new Pods Block it has an option for customizing the
   text used when no items were found.
 * The _position one here, can you verify this ran in the context of a list with
   one or more items displayed?
 *  Thread Starter [timogoedeke](https://wordpress.org/support/users/timogoedeke/)
 * (@timogoedeke)
 * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/#post-14984485)
 * Hi Scott, thanks for your reply. I have a list of names and I can even test out
   the position by letting the pod template create the following scheme:
 * {@item_name} ({@_position}/{@_total})
 * This outputs the following: “Manager (1/3)”. So I made sure the fields work as
   supposed. It just doesn’t work inside of the if-tag.
 * On the _total topic, I guess I can then also use the not_found parameter in the
   pods shortcode if there is no result?! I am not using the block editor.
 * Cheers, Timo
 *  Plugin Author [Scott Kingsley Clark](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sc0ttkclark/)
 * (@sc0ttkclark)
 * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/#post-14986723)
 * I haven’t figured this out yet but for now I’ll just have to prioritize this 
   for Pods 2.8.2. We have other regression fixes to release in 2.8.1 that take 
   priority for now.
 * Thanks for your patience, I hope this feature is more useful when it’s fully 
   working for _position. Let me know if you determine that _total has the same 
   problem for a value check above 0
 *  Thread Starter [timogoedeke](https://wordpress.org/support/users/timogoedeke/)
 * (@timogoedeke)
 * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/#post-14987341)
 * > Let me know if you determine that _total has the same problem for a value check
   > above 0
 * Yep, same problem. I’ll wait then for future updates. Pods is still awesome 😉
 *  Plugin Author [Scott Kingsley Clark](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sc0ttkclark/)
 * (@sc0ttkclark)
 * [4 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/#post-15009881)
 * Just a quick update that this issue was not yet addressed in the Pods 2.8.2 version
   that was released today. I’ll continue to look into it and follow up when I figure
   out where it’s breaking.
 *  Thread Starter [timogoedeke](https://wordpress.org/support/users/timogoedeke/)
 * (@timogoedeke)
 * [4 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/#post-15010492)
 * Thanks for letting me know.
 *  Plugin Author [Scott Kingsley Clark](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sc0ttkclark/)
 * (@sc0ttkclark)
 * [4 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/#post-15013991)
 * I didn’t get to this in Pods 2.8.3 either, I’ll give it another look as soon 
   as things calm down further 🙂
 *  Plugin Author [Scott Kingsley Clark](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sc0ttkclark/)
 * (@sc0ttkclark)
 * [4 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/#post-15014021)
 * I ended up finding time tonight before bed to solve this. It’s in Pods 2.8.4 
   which is not due out until probably next week.
 * You can get a copy of it here: [https://github.com/pods-framework/pods/archive/refs/heads/release/2.8.4.zip](https://github.com/pods-framework/pods/archive/refs/heads/release/2.8.4.zip)
 *  Plugin Author [Scott Kingsley Clark](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sc0ttkclark/)
 * (@sc0ttkclark)
 * [4 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/special-field-notations/#post-15075782)
 * Pods 2.8.4 is now out and has a fix that addresses the issue reported here.

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 * Status: resolved