Title: Great Last modified: September 2, 2016 --- # Great * [Al_ambique](https://wordpress.org/support/users/auberlu/) * (@auberlu) * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/shit-4/) * A great plugin with a nice author. It does what we want it to do, and even more. We may regret the fact that there’s no visual editor for CSS, because I’m sure I’m not the only one who didn’t really get how to use the custom CSS on this plugin. * Applauds for the good work anyways. Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) * Moderator [Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ipstenu/) * (@ipstenu) * 🏳️‍🌈 Advisor and Activist * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/shit-4/#post-7794869) * This is your one and only warning, auberlu. If you run around calling things ‘ gay’ as an insult, you’ll be banned. * That’s not funny, it’s not cool, and it’s outright cruel. Don’t do it. * > On other plugins, I would edit directly the css file of the plugin, but of > course it’s not working here. * Never edit plugins directly 🙂 You’re supposed to override CSS with your themes whenever possible/needed. * Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * (@tobiasbg) * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/shit-4/#post-7794877) * Hi auberlu, * thanks for your review, and sorry that you are so frustrated! * I’m not exactly sure though where this comes from. CSS is a clear concept (not invented by me), and there are multiple examples for styling changes in the TablePress FAQ at [http://tablepress.org/faq/](http://tablepress.org/faq/) as well as more technical explanations in the Documentation at [http://tablepress.org/documentation/](http://tablepress.org/documentation/) Also, I’ll gladly help with any questions you might have here in the support forums. * These usually make it very easy and flexible to change the styling of a table. Unfortunately, due to the large number of themes out there, it can sometimes happen that a theme contains CSS code that uses a higher internal priority, so that the “Custom CSS” changes in TablePress are not recognized by the browser. This can however be fixed easily in most cases, with small adjustments in the CSS selectors. * This is also one of the reasons why a direct user interface for the styling is hard to implement and therefore not part of TablePress at this time. It would just not be flexible enough, and CSS would always be superior. And even though there’s a small learning curve to be mastered with CSS, it will usually bring you good results quickly. * Also, as Ipstenu already mentioned, editing a CSS file in a plugin or theme is in general a very bad idea, as such changes will be overridden after every plugin update (due to the way how plugin updates work in WordPress). Therefore, the “ Custom CSS” textarea in TablePress is actually a good feature that prevents data( or CSS code) loss. * So, with that, I’d gladly like to invite you to post more details about the styling problems that you have. If you post a link to the page with the table and a description of what changes you would like to perform, I’ll gladly assist in finding the necessary code for that. Maybe that will make you think about your rating again? * Regards, Tobias * Thread Starter [Al_ambique](https://wordpress.org/support/users/auberlu/) * (@auberlu) * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/shit-4/#post-7794878) * Hello man, Sorry for that bad rating, but every css codes I tried didn’t work. Your plugin is indeed not ***, it seems to be freaking nice in fact. But it’s damageable that there’s no visual editor for the css, like on that plugin called“ Websimon Tables”. * I learnt CSS / HTML / PHP by myself, therefore I’m not very good. I tried to apply some !important rules, but the result was never good. I think there’s just something I messed, like a td or th, I didn’t get how it works with your plugin, you add some thead td etc… * I’ll see if I can remove my rating, because your long reply and the time you lost because of me deserves a better one. * For the updates, you’re right, bug the thing is that most of the pluggins don’t purpose a visual CSS editor, or are not translated, so I have to edit directly the files, and I don’t update the plugins I edited. * Sorry for the time wasting, and I hope you’ll understand what I say, since I’m not english and I may have done some mistakes. * EDIT : hell man, I’m sure you almost had an heart attack when you saw you had a 1 star rating. When I see you ask people to change their rating when they put 4… 😀 * Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * (@tobiasbg) * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/shit-4/#post-7794879) * Hi auberlu, * thanks for reconsidering your review. And I can only repeat my offer: If you have trouble with the CSS styling, just let me know here in the forums, and I’ll gladly help! * Best wishes, Tobias * Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * (@tobiasbg) * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/shit-4/#post-7794885) * Hi, * ah, just saw your reply. Yes, I can understand your trouble with CSS, and I would love to make this easier. Most problems here come from themes that bring their own styling for tables, although they don’t have native methods to actually add tables. And that then interferes with the default and Custom CSS of TablePress, making it hard for users to change some things. 🙁 Thanks for the hint about Websimon Tables. I’ll check out its visual CSS editor (it didn’t have one the last time I tried that plugin). * And about that “heart attack” 🙂 No, don’t worry, it’s not that bad. 🙂 I’m perfectly fine with negative critics or ratings, if they are justified, and if I get a chance to explain the reasons for the criticized behavior and a chance to maybe fix things. * Best wishes, Tobias * Thread Starter [Al_ambique](https://wordpress.org/support/users/auberlu/) * (@auberlu) * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/shit-4/#post-7794887) * Hey again, * Indeed, my theme (custom parament) interfers with TablePress’ css, because even with other plugins, like Websimon Tables, I have some trubbles with the css. * Thanks for your help, but I’ll keep using Websimon now that I’m used to this plugin. * Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * (@tobiasbg) * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/shit-4/#post-7794888) * Hi, * yes, that’s a good indicator then. If I can help in the future, just let me know. * Best wishes, Tobias Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) The topic ‘Great’ is closed to new replies. * ![](https://ps.w.org/tablepress/assets/icon.svg?rev=3192944) * [TablePress - Tables in WordPress made easy](https://wordpress.org/plugins/tablepress/) * [Frequently Asked Questions](https://wordpress.org/plugins/tablepress/#faq) * [Support Threads](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/tablepress/) * [Active Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/tablepress/active/) * [Unresolved Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/tablepress/unresolved/) * [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/tablepress/reviews/) * 7 replies * 3 participants * Last reply from: [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * Last activity: [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/shit-4/#post-7794888)