Support » Plugin: Contact Form 7 » reCATCHA V3

  • Hi
    another voice asking for V2 support.
    I regret the update I made to CF7. Not only is it intrusive with the privacy popup on every page but it is not as effective at blocking spam as V2. On a mobile the Google popup is ludicrously, unacceptably intrusive. On both the websites I manage I have now started getting spam again.
    Whilst I could just roll back this stops future upgrades so is a poor solution.
    If not, then in a weeks time I’ll start looking for a suitable replacement – anyone got any suggestions?
    Dave

    • This topic was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by daverob.
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  • I totally agree with Dave’s points here.

    – Need continued v2 support

    – If users opt to use v3, make sure the banner only displays on pages with forms. Showing that giant badge on every page is unacceptable.

    @squarecandy and @daverob please note the newest version of the plugin 5.1 is now properly blocking SPAM. In fact, the V3 methodology is actually better than V2. It takes into account visitor behavior on the website. This is why the script is loaded on every page. We agree that the badge is obstrusive, but that can be removed by adding some additional styling. We are currently testing this on 200+ domains and the results so far are good. We can even trigger a SPAM block by using autofill on all the form fields.

    But new v3 keys must be created on https://www.google.com/recaptcha/admin for every domain and then installed in the plugin settings, right? That’s a ton of work. Discontinuing support existing v2 keys instantly on upgrade to the version that uses v3 seems like a bad approach. A separate setting for v3 and support for both would be so much better, allowing users to keep the plugin updated but make the switch to v3 when they have time and inclination to do so.

    “We agree that the badge is obstrusive, but that can be removed by adding some additional styling.”

    It’s against Google’s TOS to hide the badge with CSS. You can do it, but it’s technically illegal. The badge that’s inline with the form is not the prettiest, but at least it is a relatively positioned element that only shows on the form pages.

    “We can even trigger a SPAM block by using autofill on all the form fields.”

    Lots of real users use autofill for their contact info.

    I agree that v2 support should be. Hopefully v2 comes in option.

    I concur.
    This is a tragedy…

    Wow, you just blew up 20 of my WordPress installs with this one (recaptcha-wise).

    Did I miss the “you’ll need to re-enter a v3 key if you wish for your form to function properly…” memo?

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by hackrepair.
    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by hackrepair.
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    @locascioa correction: may V3 works well on high-volume sites, but on relatively low volume sites it is at least initially useless. While it “learns” we are being inundated with spam.

    I will add my voice to the V3 is bad crowd. Not only is the badge intrusive and ugly, I found that on some IPad browsers, it breaks the form. You get the yellow box that says you should try again later, but the mail sends anyway. It is fixed if I remove the v3 key.

    Edit: I just found this on https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/faq:

    ***I’d like to hide the reCAPTCHA v3 badge. What is allowed?

    You are allowed to hide the badge as long as you include the reCAPTCHA branding visibly in the user flow. Please include the following text:

    ` This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google
    <a href=”https://policies.google.com/privacy”>Privacy Policy</a> and
    <a href=”https://policies.google.com/terms”>Terms of Service</a> apply.`

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by earrame.
    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by earrame.

    @locascioa @waltwilson
    indeed – both the sites I maintain are very low volume – local clubs & societies.

    Just looked at the FAQ…
    reCAPTCHA v3 is intended for power users, site owners that want more data about their traffic, and for use cases in which it is not appropriate to show a challenge to the user.”

    It’s not a one size fits all – as Google says V2 is not going away!!!!

    V2?…..Please?….

    Regards
    Dave

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by daverob.

    Did you just force this update without ANY notice and broke all my contact forms? Besides the v3 doesn’t even work. My colleague keeps getting spam and i don’t really now what to tell her…

    @locascioa : We agree that the badge is obstrusive, but that can be removed by adding some additional styling.

    Is that allowed under Google’s terms of use? Genuine question btw!

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by muddyfeet.
    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by muddyfeet.

    @muddyfeet, while you are regenerating your keys, you should remove the old Catpcha tag from the form and put in the one line that Google wants you to add instead of the badge.

    We are doing this for all 200+ domains we manage (a pain in the butt), because we have no assurance from the plugin developer that he will support V2. The alternative is to add another plugin that enables V2. See this article: https://soundst.com/2018/12/contact-form-7-recaptcha-spam-issues/

    We are making the choice to embrace V3 for the moment, because the alternative is even more difficult for us.

    @waltwilson and @attilazkedei, make sure you are using the most recent version 5.1.1 We are not having SPAM issues with that

    @locascioa – Your article that you linked to is really comprehensive and awesome!

    Thanks for the tip that we can just use
    https://wordpress.org/plugins/advanced-nocaptcha-recaptcha/
    and disable the CAPTCHA feature provided by CF7 if we want to keep v2.

    I know you’re now advocating for people to switch to v3 with 5.1.1, but it’s good to have options.

    @locascioa are you also updating your privacy policy on 200 sites to indicate that Google Recaptcha now tracks users on all pages (without asking for consent, so not-GDPR compliant)?

    Like Analytics and Fonts, Recaptcha v3 tracks all users on all pages. That is absolutely unacceptable.
    Please consider giving the choice between v2 and v3, or I’ll have to switch to another contact form plug-in.
    I don’t want my users to be tracked on my site, thank you.

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