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  • Resolved wpwd2016

    (@mwarbinek)


    I am hoping to find some answers and clarification to some questions about this plugin.

    1. When I first use the plugin, it gave a couple of plugin ZIP files, a couple of upload folder ZIP files, etc. This just creates more work to restore a site manually (I base the value of a backup plugin on the amount of work it takes “manually” to use any of the backups).

      Thus, I went to Settings > Advanced – Batch Size. I changed each value that was under 10,000 to 10,000. I am supposing the number refers to number of files??

      Then I tried the backup again and this time the folders saved were not split like the default setting.

      Q: Was this correct in what I did and what is the value limit that can be entered ti to the batch size boxes?

    2. 2 root files are important for a complete recovery of a WordPress website, these are “wp-config” which holds the database configs for WordPress and the htaccess which controls the access to the whole site.

      Q: Why does this plugin not save the root files of the WordPress install, such as “wp-config” and the htaccess file?
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    3. Q: Why does the plugin save the database as a bunch of single files (table rows)?
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    4. Q: When setting the plugin to create a single database file, I see a larger file with a “db” extension. A “db” file is apparently not usable to upload to a SQL database. What can be done to get a proper “sql” formatted database backup file?
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    5. Why create the extra work to download several backup files, could this plugin make it so that all we do is click the link and all files are downloaded into one ZIP file or TAR file? (sure, it can hold all the other ZIP files within it -and – not everyone is tech savy enough to use FTP).
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  • Plugin Author Chris Simmons

    (@cssimmon)

    Hi @mwarbinek,
    The reason we break up the backups into so many files is to support the many WordPress hosting environments out there. Many are very restrictive with resources so over the years we have had to add configuration options so that WPBackItUp will continue to work even with the very inexpensive hosting providers. We break each portion of the backup process into small workloads driven by these configuration settings and the result are many small files vs 1 large one.

    However, if you have an environment with lots of resources then you can change these configuration settings to minimize the number of files generated. Just keep increasing your settings until you receive an error, then back it down to the previous setting.

    Additionally, there are settings that allow you to combine both SQL and zip files into a single file but please note these may not work with hosting providers that severely limit memory and processing time.

    As for the root files, wp-config and .htaccess. These are very specific to each install so we don’t restore them. I suppose we could back them up for you for reference and manual installs but if we were to replace these files during a one-click restore then its quite possible your site would cease to function, so we do not replace these files currently.

    Hope that helps and let me know if you have any additional questions!
    Chris

    Thanks for the reply.

    “db” vs “sql”
    You answered Questions 1-3, but as it seems, no clear answer to Question 4 about the SQL database file which shows the extension as “db”.

    How is someone to use a “db” file to upload to SQL and restore the SQL database?

    Root Files
    Ah, yes, both files “htaccess” and “wp-config” contents are “specific” to the WordPress install, that is the point. To not restore these means the recovery of the “specific” WordPress website fails because it cannot access the database.

    I have no idea why you would say restoring those files would cause the WordPress site to fail when it is those very files WordPress depends on to give access to the website and connect to its database. To replace “wp-config” with a default copy from a new WordPress install would cause the site to fail because it does not contain the crucial information as stated.

    I have migrated and restored many WordPress websites and without those 2 files, the websites would fail.

    So your answer about htaccess and wp-config is confusing. The only time that I can see where one does not need to restore htaccess or wp-config is when they are still intact (uncorrupted) and only the rest of the site needs restoration.

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    Plugin Author Chris Simmons

    (@cssimmon)

    Hi again @mwarbinek,
    I am not sure I am following your issue with the .db file. If you open it up you should see all the SQL needed to restore your database. If you are unable to upload it because of the extension then try renaming the extension to .sql. If there is an issue with the SQL statements contained in the file then let me know.

    My comments about the wp-config.php and .htaccess were based on my assumption that you are trying to migrate your site to a new host. Many of my customers use WPBackItUp to move their site to a new host so I assumed that’s what you were doing. Replacing a wp-config.php and .htaccess files when moving from one host to another would be a bad idea. But if you are restoring your site on the same host then you are correct, replacing the .htaccess and wp-config.php should be fine.

    I don’t include them in the backup now but could add them in the next release if you would like. I actually had another request for this recently so was planning to add it anyway.

    Hope that helps!
    Chris

    “db” vs sql file

    I was about to ask, since you mention it now. The database file has the extension of “db”. If I change that extension to “sql”, is the file properly formatted and will the SQL database accept it for an upload?

    htaccess & wp-config files
    To migrate a website with a database means the database username and password are already in the “wp-config” file. To migrate from one server to the next and get the website up, does require the wp-config file from the original install, if a person uses the same database name and password.

    I have done it many times, manually. I have migrated the entire WordPress install, root files and all and database. Sometimes there is no need to change core URL’s in the WordPress install so long as the domain URL remains the same (ie: switching host services). If it is changed, then the main domain URL’s require manual changing to the new domain URL’s. – but the original wp-config with its original settings within it, remain the same so long as the database name and passwords are also the same.

    For that scenario, the wp-config file is needed.

    Moving a WordPress website can be done in various ways, which you know, I have described one way, which is how I have done it before.

    To include the root files in the next update version? – sure, you can include it as an option. Otherwise, for me, I can easily download it via FTP and insert it into a ZIP file.

    htaccess – Mmm, it is the same no matter where you go, and it can hold special settings that were used in a previous website which can be used again, but the person needs to know how to use it when migrating that. I have done that before too.

    Thanks

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