Title: Problems with diacritics Last modified: January 5, 2024 --- # Problems with diacritics * [Peter Hausleitner](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpeterme/) * (@wpeterme) * [2 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problems-with-diacritics/) * Hello, we have following issues with letters starting with diacritics: * Á, É, Í, Ó, Ú, Ý, Č, Ď, Ť, Ň, Ľ, Š and Ž are (and some others, in languages that use it) different letters than A, E, I, O, U, Y, C, D, T, N, L, S and Z. Currently, latest ND version works with these starting letters as the same letter – e.g Žaba is before ZOO, when it should be after etc., and only one variant is shown in the alphabet list on the top. * In our example we experienced problems with C/Č, S/Š, U/Ú and Z/Ž. * Thanks - This topic was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by [Peter Hausleitner](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpeterme/). * The page I need help with: _[[log in](https://login.wordpress.org/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpress.org%2Fsupport%2Ftopic%2Fproblems-with-diacritics%2F%3Foutput_format%3Dmd&locale=en_US) to see the link]_ Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) * Plugin Author [Jeroen Peters](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jeroenpeters1986/) * (@jeroenpeters1986) * [2 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problems-with-diacritics/#post-17320167) * Hi [@wpeterme](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpeterme/), I will have to look into that, but at the moment this part (the diacritics storing and sorting) relies on PHP’s and MySQL’s internals, so I think there is not much I can do. But I will look into it. * There is a disadvantage, I a not a native speaker/user of these characters, so therefore I have no knowledge about how this should be sorted and if this is the same in every language. But if I am understanding this correctly, your assumption is that the NON-diacritic characters should come before the ones with diacritics right? * Kind regards, Jeroen * Thread Starter [Peter Hausleitner](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpeterme/) * (@wpeterme) * [2 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problems-with-diacritics/#post-17320196) * Great, thank you. My example is for Slovak language, Czech is similar (they have also R/Ř..). Yes, first come non-diacritics, after them diacritic characters. * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_orthography#Alphabet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_orthography#Alphabet) * Regards, Peter * Plugin Author [Jeroen Peters](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jeroenpeters1986/) * (@jeroenpeters1986) * [2 years, 2 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problems-with-diacritics/#post-17397205) * Hi [@wpeterme](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpeterme/), I am sorry for the later reply, but at this moment I cannot really change it. It really creates the list of index-letters by treating a word like “Časopriestor” as “Casopriestor”. When there is this word and a word like Condor in this list, the first word to be sorted would be Časopriestor and this way Č would be listed on the Index. When there is a word that alphabetically comes first without diacritics, then the “normal” letter is used for the index. * I have tried and tinkered with this, but at this moment I do not have a solution for your proposal (use the R before Ř). I will continue to check, but please know that I did check and tinkered with it. * Kind regards, * Jeroen Peters * Thread Starter [Peter Hausleitner](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpeterme/) * (@wpeterme) * [2 years, 2 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problems-with-diacritics/#post-17398318) * Thank you very much for spending time for this. Maybe once there will be some way to fix it. * Cheers * Plugin Author [Jeroen Peters](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jeroenpeters1986/) * (@jeroenpeters1986) * [2 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problems-with-diacritics/#post-17524020) * Hi [@wpeterme](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpeterme/), I have done some additional testing and tinkering. It seems that some DB settings could influence the sorting, but all my testing has ended up doing nothing. For now I am giving up on this, I am sorry. * Kind regards Jeroen * [2046](https://wordpress.org/support/users/o-o/) * (@o-o) * [2 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problems-with-diacritics/#post-17540792) * the database should be in such case: utf8mb4_czech_ci not all tables needed, only those where you have the records stored.(I know it works form my own experience… it does not matter in most cases but the sorting) * Plugin Author [Jeroen Peters](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jeroenpeters1986/) * (@jeroenpeters1986) * [2 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problems-with-diacritics/#post-17540804) * Hi [@o-o](https://wordpress.org/support/users/o-o/), * thanks for hopping in! I have tried this with another one, I am not really sure which one collation. I will try the czech one, but I am hoping it will not only be for Czech, as I try to support worldwide. Do you happen to know anything about this? * Kind regards, and thanks again for joining in, * Jeroen Peters Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) The topic ‘Problems with diacritics’ is closed to new replies. * ![](https://ps.w.org/name-directory/assets/icon-128x128.png?rev=1008185) * [Name Directory](https://wordpress.org/plugins/name-directory/) * [Frequently Asked Questions](https://wordpress.org/plugins/name-directory/#faq) * [Support Threads](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/name-directory/) * [Active Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/name-directory/active/) * [Unresolved Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/name-directory/unresolved/) * [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/name-directory/reviews/) ## Tags * [diacritics](https://wordpress.org/support/topic-tag/diacritics/) * 7 replies * 3 participants * Last reply from: [Jeroen Peters](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jeroenpeters1986/) * Last activity: [2 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problems-with-diacritics/#post-17540804) * Status: not resolved