• Is it possible to have two separate footnote sections on the same page?

    We would like to have descriptive footnotes and list of sources in separate footnote sections with possibly the other using arabic numbers and the other roman numbers.

    For example Wikipedia does this with Notes and References:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland#cite_note-11

    Is this possible?

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  • Plugin Contributor pewgeuges

    (@pewgeuges)

    @tierarepro

    The only currently available way to achieve this is using another footnotes plugin alongside. A Footnotes user did that and it worked for her when she posted an unrelated topic nearly 14 months ago. The review she posted ten days earlier refers to the duality of footnotes (that she used the other plugin for) and references: https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-breath-of-fresh-air-for-footnotes-references/ Sadly the website linked from the support topic is now down, and in the era when it was up it was not crawled by archive.org. As I also missed out on saving a page for reference, I can’t tell for sure but I believe it was the one used now on the website that a former Footnotes user needed help with one month earlier when posting https://wordpress.org/support/topic/no-footnotes-anymore/ and that is also the most used footnotes plugin.

    If you decide to use it, and the notes should be numbered with Roman numerals, then you need to use Footnotes for the notes because it lets you choose the numbering system. And you need to set the priority level for the_content to a number below 20 so as to outpace the other plugin, that runs at priority 20 but should insert the reference list after the note list. (The lower the number, the higher the priority.) You will also need to set the label, most easily on the plugin’s settings page found in the Settings submenu. You may also wish to know that the confidential shortcode [note][/note] works as well as the official long shortcode. If for consistency with the other plugin, you would like to have the Footnotes plugin append a backlink at the end of the reference text, then you might be interested by the solution recently provided in the topic https://wordpress.org/support/topic/backlink-symbol-at-the-end-of-the-footnote/

    Thank you for requesting a feature that I missed out on adding. It was on the to-do list while I was busy with fixing bugs and adding other features (the last of which, full AMP compatibility, was unfinished when I left the project [that declined AMP] for ethical reasons). I strongly encourage the now-developers to pick up your feature request and implement it swiftly so as to maintain consistency of design, since the other plugin displays the notes in an HTML numbered list and is incapable of combining identical references.

    Please let us know if it works for you, and be sure to keep reaching out should you require any further assistance.

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    Thread Starter tierarepro

    (@tierarepro)

    Thank you for a very comprehensive answer!

    I tested this out, but the other footnote plugins have very limited options.
    I need to be able to place the footnote and reference lists myself into my post template.

    I hope Footnotes implements a feature to have two separate instances in the same post in the future. Thanks!

    Plugin Contributor pewgeuges

    (@pewgeuges)

    @tierarepro

    Thank you for your report. I understand that you need the feature right now or do you have a deadline? If so, what is your deadline? Another question is about numbering systems: Are Roman numerals a requirement, or would you be fine with a scheme like on Wikipedia that you are linking to, as in: “[…] and Skolt Sami.ⁿᵒᵗᵉ ²”?

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    Thread Starter tierarepro

    (@tierarepro)

    We are not in a hurry.

    We are building a history related website with articles that have a lot of references to source materials, but will also have footnotes for the writer’s to use as clarifications to specific details.

    Roman numerals are not a requirement.

    But I feel like there needs to be a clear way of separating sources from notes. Be it different numbering systems with digits or alphabet or some other way.

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    Plugin Contributor pewgeuges

    (@pewgeuges)

    You are making a very good point, and I hope that you will get hold of the best solution soon. The Footnotes plugin has a GitHub repository where progress can be tracked:

    https://github.com/markcheret/footnotes

    Excuse-me please for not posting there any more. For me, users are absolute priority.

    Plugin Contributor pewgeuges

    (@pewgeuges)

    @tierarepro

    One week down the road nothing happens in the cited GitHub but, as the saying goes, Google is your friend, and you need a plugin to “parse inline complements and display them either as descriptive endnotes or as bibliographic endnotes depending on their delimiters”

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