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[closed] Information referring to paid version? (34 posts)

  1. DomainPawnshop
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Oh brother.

    The only story that Otto's post might end is one that demonstrates the scope of the problem and the lack of response to complaints like mine.


    (1) Matt Mullenweg was quick to point out to Chris Pearson (of Thesis Themes) the following:

    "It’s just that anyone violating the license is disrespectful to thousands of people that built WordPress and all of the other businesses that have respect for WordPress’ license."

    "Well, if in the WordPress community people started deciding that the GPL doesn’t apply that’s a very, very slippery slope. Not just for WordPress but for all of open source. Like you said, there hasn’t been a court case yet in the United States because every company, including big ones like Cisco, have backed down. If Chris wants to be the court case that proves the GPL, I am sure there are many people in the open source community that would love that opportunity."

    (2) The GPL states "If the program dynamically links plug-ins, and they make function calls to each other and share data structures, we believe they form a single program, which must be treated as an extension of both the main program and the plug-ins. This means the plug-ins must be released under the GPL or a GPL-compatible free software license, and that the terms of the GPL must be followed when those plug-ins are distributed."

    (3) The Free Software Foundation (FSF) and the Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) have rendered an opinion that WordPress themes and plugins are derivative of WordPress and therefore must necessarily inherit WordPress' GPL.

    (4) US Copyright law defines a "derivative work" as follows: A “derivative work” is a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications, which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a “derivative work”.

    Yet Otto, a core WordPress contributor, today declares...

    "Now, their pay version may not be GPL, but it doesn't have to be. If it's not in our repository, they can use whatever terms they like."

    Jeeze, I can't imagine why there's so much confusion about these issues.

  2. mauricius
    Posted 3 years ago #

    To be honest, it is just a problem for you... This GPL debate regularly comes back on the table and is subject to endless discussions.

    I believe the outcome of this round is that :
    1/ Plugins hosted here have to be 100% GPL, everybody agrees on that.

    2/ Outside of here, it is the plugin author decision to define the license he wants to apply and then it is up to you to decide if you want to use it or not based on that.

    So you might not be happy with this conclusion but still I think you need to respect the work of plugin authors, regardless of their license. The situation you had claimed as being unacceptable is indeed acceptable so be it... Nobody forces you to use the plugins that you don't like. I believe there are enough plugins available for you to find one that suits your needs without having to shout on the ones that don't. Respect the work of contributors and praise the ones you prefer rather than shouting the ones you don't like. Just accept that some people could have multiple reasons for thinking differently than you, still it isn't a valid reason for accusing them of doing illegal things...

    I am quite happy that these great plugins like user messages will continue to be there. Don't want to see my freedom to use it here restricted to peace your mind...

    Wish you a good week end, learnt a lot about GPL today, thanks!

  3. DomainPawnshop
    Posted 3 years ago #

    You can somehow come up with that interpretation if you like.

    I do not.

    I believe exactly as I (and many other more qualified individuals and organizations) have stated about plugins and themes. I also believe that restrictive licenses on premium plugins are a DOUBLE violation of the GPL. And, I believe that those benefiting the most from WordPress have some duty to protect it, and that that is not being done.

    That's what I believe.

    I do, however, appreciate your wish for my weekend and would extend a reciprocal gesture in return.

  4. Okay. This has been fun and a gripping read, but I think this topic has reached "get in the last word" status. I'm closing this thread as I don't believe it's productive anymore.

    As Esmi said a while back, If anyone wants to post in the Requests & Feedback forum without being plugin specific, please do.

    If someone has a specific issue with a specific plugin, please raise the issue via email to plugins [AT] wordpress.org.

    If you have a support questions, please start a new topic in the appropriate forum.

    Edit: If any mod wants to add more or reopen this topic, please do. But I think this has really been put to bed.

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