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[Plugin: NextGEN Gallery] Is Google image search indexing working on Next-Gen (68 posts)

  1. thewidelens
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hi,

    I'm using NextGen on my website, The Wide Lens
    Since this is a photography site, it is imperative that Google can index the images on my site for Google image search.

    So far I have plenty of galleries online, the plug in manages great and fun to work with, a really good product, but I'm not getting the images indexed by Google images.

    Questions is- am I doing something wrong? Or does NextGen block the google-images bot?
    I have used webmaster tools, have a sitemap, and generally my site is SEO optimized, all pages are indexed on Google without a problem, robots.txt file should be OK. Even opted for Google's enhanced image search service, doesn't help much.

    Anyone using NextGen and seeing the images indexed on Google images?

    Thanks,

    Tal
    Thewidelens.com

  2. rocksur
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    mmmmm I'm going to leave this fantastic plugin 'cause It blocks google-images bot.

    Be care my friends. This plugin is awesome, looks good, useful, but ........ It is a "harakiri" web plugin.

    Why? just because this plugin DECREASE your visits. Any image uploaded by Next Gen isn't indexed in Google.

    I repeat: Next Gen doesn't index any image in Google!

    It's the only but dangerous disadvantage of Next Gen.

    I hope this be fixed in 1.0 version.

  3. Alex Rabe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I didn't know how to block the search , as I uses alt / title tags to support a index search. Did you receive with the Google webmaster tools and errors , why your images are not listed ?

  4. Alex Rabe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I checked some example blog which I listed on my homepage (for example aaronsnyder.net) if you look with "inurl:" for this blog , you will find that all gallery images are listed.

    If I look for some keywords like "Cypress Cemetery Old Saybrook", also there are the images listed.

    So I must disagree that NextGEN "blocks" google images, unless somebody tell me what I can optimze to make it better

  5. Steve Tille
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I have exactly the same problem here, here and here.

    It's a very beautiful tool, but without findings from google images it's uselessly.

    Thanks!!!

  6. Alex Rabe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Analyse your content with Google Webmaster tools, if there are any problems with NextGEN let me know it...

  7. Phlux0r
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Google says that for an image to be indexed by the image search, you should have the HTML <img ... /> properly set. You need to specify:
    alt=""
    title=""
    width=""
    height=""

    Looking at the code for the gallery thumbs, Alex, you are using:
    style="width=xxxpx; height=yyypx;" instead of the HTML width and height attributes. Maybe you can change that in your next release?

  8. Alex Rabe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Where did you read the imformation that width/height is requried ?

    Google require alt/title, see here :

    http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=72746&hlrm=de

  9. Steve Tille
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Yes i found many problems with google webmaster about nextgen:

    3 HTTP-Fails:
    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/ Fehler 4xx 12.08.2008

    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/crazy Fehler 4xx 12.08.2008

    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/crazy/ Fehler 4xx 12.08.2008

    4x Not found:
    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/Auto/Audi 404 (Nicht gefunden) 12.08.2008

    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/Auto/Ford 404 (Nicht gefunden) 01.08.2008

    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/Auto/toyota 404 (Nicht gefunden) 12.08.2008

    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/News/EU 404 (Nicht gefunden) 12.08.2008

  10. Steve Tille
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    <img title="57940481_46b99cdbbb.jpg" alt="57940481_46b99cdbbb.jpg" src="http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/crazy/thumbs/thumbs_57940481_46b99cdbbb.jpg" style="width:100px; height:75px;" />

    Thats the Code of one of the Pictures. (site:steve-tille.de/wp-content/) shows only the pictures on the sidebar gallery Plugin. And these Pictures are not sorted to a post.

    And thank you Ruben, for your help.

  11. Phlux0r
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Ok it might not exactly be a requirement but here's what it says:

    "While the use of the ALT tag is obviously helpful in optimizing for Google search, the dimensions (width and height) are also important, because Google image search also lets users search for images according to size in the advanced options. This means defining your image size makes it easier for Google to crawl and index your site, and subsequently store information about your graphics."

    Here: http://www.googletutor.com/2007/01/10/optimizing-for-google-image-search/

  12. Phlux0r
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    @Steve Tille
    Check out the title and alt attributes in the img tag. They are not very descriptive as to what image this is. You might want to edit the Alt and Title attribute field for you images in the Gallery Maintenance...

  13. Steve Tille
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    But i think the major Problem is not the titel or alt attributes. It's definitely better for google, o.k., but in my case, google found no pictures.
    I have an other Blog, also with pictures (but without nextgen), and google images find the pictures in connection with the Text of the relevant Post, because all these pictures have no titel or alt attribute.

  14. Phlux0r
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    @ Steve Tille.

    Just did this search:
    site:www.steve-tille.de audi
    on Google image search and it seems that all your Audi images are there...
    Looks like it's fine to me :)...

  15. Steve Tille
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    very nice, but read my post before.

    shows only the pictures on the sidebar gallery Plugin.

    search:
    site:www.steve-tille.de audi
    site:www.steve-tille.de toyota
    site:www.steve-tille.de iPod
    site:www.steve-tille.de test

    and you will see always the same :)

    Google images shows only the pictures from my sidebar. By using the search text "site:www.steve-tille.de audi" no Audi A3 1,8 Turbo pictures are shwon.

  16. Alex Rabe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    @phlux0r
    I read across the web about img and I must agree that it's a good idea to add width/height instead of the style property.

    change nggfunction.php Line 284/285 to

    if ($ngg_options['thumbfix'])  $thumbsize = 'width="'.$thumbwidth.'" height="'.$thumbheight.'"';
    if ($ngg_options['thumbcrop']) $thumbsize = 'width="'.$thumbwidth.'" height="'.$thumbwidth.'"';

    Let's try it and see if Google like it or not...

  17. Steve Tille
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I will test it now.

    Thanks for your help. I will report.

  18. Phlux0r
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    @alex
    Thanks for the code. We just want to make NextGen better :).

    @Steve Tille
    Sorry Steve, I didn't read your previous posts carefully enough. I'm not sure why Google wouldn't index your site images apart from the ones in the sidebar but I'd say it's a good idea to try to give google as much info about your images as possible and not rely on context only...

  19. redhousepainter
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Alex,

    Thanks for directing me to this post. As I mentioned I have the same issue mentioned above (only sidebar indexed). I changed the code above and will post back if I see any results.

    I don't want to hijack this thread but have a couple of questions...

    1. Will this fix work retroactively - for images already posted.

    2. My old method of uploading involved uploading images through the NextGen plug-in and then pasting the code into the post. A couple of upgrades ago WP included the Add Media function to the editor and now I upload the image through that. Is that also NextGen? If so, is there any code I should change for it as well as those images aren't being indexed either.

    Three of my sites are image based and are seeing very little indexing. I use Zenphoto on one as well as NextGen and the Zenphoto gallery hasn't had a single image indexed so it entirely possible that the issue isn't with your software!

    Thanks for your help!

    Phauxshow
    Critteristic
    Anonymous Pond

  20. Steve Tille
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    So, i think it's enough time to see the result.

    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/ Fehler 4xx

    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/crazy Fehler 4xx

    http://www.steve-tille.de/wp-content/gallery/crazy/ Fehler 4xx

    And, no imgages found in google, see "site:steve-tille.de/wp-content/"

    Only the pictures from my sitebar plugin.

  21. Alex Rabe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Who said that one week is enough time ?

    I enabled since two weeks my test page now for the GoogleBot, and there are still no images listed :
    http://images.google.com/images?q=site%3Anextgen.boelinger.com

    If you have no time for analyse the situation... switch the tools, that's the best solution :-)

  22. Steve Tille
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hey sorry.....the Tool is perfekt. So i wait how long?

  23. Alex Rabe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I would first enable mod_rewrite and permalinks... as we all know this is more search friendly....

  24. redhousepainter
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hi Alex,

    I still have a few questions that I mentioned above. Primarily, my situation is this...

    1. Google indexes all of my sidebar images.

    2. Only about 3 of the images that I used the NextGen plugin to upload were indexed after 4 or 5 months - all of which have numbers in the jpg title, for example - phot001300.jpg

    3. Only 2 of the images I used the WordPress Add Media function to upload were indexed and they both included image size in the jpg name, for example - embee_op_570x600.jpg

    Is it necessary to add image sixe to the jpg title?

    I added the fix that you gave above. Is the the WordPress Add Media function based on the NextGen plugin? Is there any code I can change to help with it?

    I'm just trying to understand the Google Image Beast and make my site better. Here is a link to my primary image site if you want to have a look...

    Critteristic

  25. Alex Rabe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    @redhousepainter

    The WordPress Add Media function is not part of NGG, it's the new Core gallery system (but you can also access from there to NGG pictures)

    Currently I have now idea why random images will indexed, maybe the div structure of the gallery causes such a problem, I will play with it on my test page...

  26. Steve Tille
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Any News??

  27. Josh Fialkoff
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Hi,

    I want to share the results of an experiment I did on a site where I use the NextGEN plugin, the site for a Jamaica Plain artist.

    After waiting a month without having any of her images being indexed on Google, I took the following steps:

    1) I uploaded the images to my Picasa account.
    2) I linked to that page from each page of her image gallery (i.e., from her 2007 gallery, I linked to the Picasa gallery for 2007).
    3) I created an RSS feed for each year's gallery.
    4) I waited...

    It's taken about three months (this is not a highly visited site), but Google is now indexing 21 of her approximately 100 images.

    I also asked her to add captions to images, but that is going to be a long-term proposition. ;-)

    In the meantime, I wrote text for each year, just to get some text on the page, even though it's not filled with strategically important keywords.

    I'm quite interested in what people think of these steps and what other steps you might recommend.

    Thanks,
    Josh

  28. Deeogee
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Any progress on this?

  29. Deeogee
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    sorry for the double post

    but looking at http://images.google.com/images?q=site%3Anextgen.boelinger.com

    it appears google is indexing the gallery images

    but when I look at the html of that page the image gallery is still using the style attribute and not the width, height attributes like you suggested in the fix

    what is different about that blog and everyone elses?

    similar to everyone else, i am running nextgen on a bunch of blogs and only when i insert individual images on pages or posts do they appear in the google image search

  30. Doniaa
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    ?
    Why was my post deleted?
    Was it for the links?

    If so I won't post them again

    ...I have the same problem in all of the FIVE sites in which I'm using wordpress with nextgen gallery.

    I really need the images to be indexed by google...

    help!

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