Title: Page comments without a form?
Last modified: August 21, 2016

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# Page comments without a form?

 *  Resolved [jsbarrett](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jsbarrett/)
 * (@jsbarrett)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/page-comments-without-a-form/)
 * I was just blessed with the job of administering [the WordPress-based site of a friend’s business](http://brokenbowranch.net/).
   The first time I logged in earlier today, I was a little confused to see that
   there were 123 comments waiting to be moderated. I figured it was mostly spam,
   but one of the comments from just a day or two ago looked pretty legit. Looking
   at the page that it (allegedly) came from, though, I didn’t see a form. In fact,
   _none_ of the site’s pages have comment forms active.
 * After poring through the list, I found about a dozen comments that appear to 
   be from actual site visitors, but I can’t figure out how they got into the system.
   The former admin doesn’t know, either, though admittedly he hasn’t been doing
   much on the site lately (which is partly why I’m taking over). I really don’t
   think that page forms were active until just a couple days ago and then suddenly
   disabled. I’m under the impression that they’ve been disabled from day one. So
   how could those comments have come in? I can see spammers finding some under-
   the-hood way to slip their stuff through, but how do I have legit-looking comments
   coming in without a submission form?

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 *  [catacaustic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/catacaustic/)
 * (@catacaustic)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/page-comments-without-a-form/#post-4921119)
 * There’s a lot of lgeitimate looking comments that are only just SPAM. As the 
   pages don’t have the comment areas on them, they would be submitted via automated
   bots that are built to do just this. Adding comments is a “preferred” black-hat
   SEO trick to get a backlink from your site to the SPAM’ers site, or their clients.
   You’ll find that pretty much all of the users that posted the comments have a
   backlink to some site that has nothing to do with yours.
 * If you don’t already, install and configure Akismet. It’s very good at blocking
   comment SPAM. There’s also other plugins available, so see waht combination can
   work for you.
 * Can you share one of the ones that you think is legit with us? It should be very
   easy to tell just from how it’s written.
 *  Thread Starter [jsbarrett](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jsbarrett/)
 * (@jsbarrett)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/page-comments-without-a-form/#post-4921221)
 * Having waded through hundreds of comments over the years, I’m pretty confident
   in my ability to spot real comments vs pseudo-real comments. In the case of the
   few that I isolated yesterday, here’s the evidence that I see that tells me that
   they’re real:
    - In the form data submitted, _none_ of them include a backlink to another web
      site. They only have an email address.
    - Two of the email addresses are tied to a local school.
    - The comments all make very specific reference to services that are provided
      by my employer: horse camps, trail rides, etc. The following are some examples:
 * > Hello, I was wanting to check your availability on your camps this summer in
   > June? For two children. Thank you,
   > Jennifer
 * > I found you guys through GROUPON that was sent to my email address. I am interested
   > in enrolling my son in the Horseriding course. He is 9 years old and we would
   > be able to attend the June 30-Jul 4th course, as I teach summer school and …
   > can’t break away any sooner. Thanks for chatting with me on the phone this 
   > morning!
   >  Have a blessed day!
 * > What days are the trail rides? Is there one available this Friday, April, 11,
   > 2014?
 * > Hi, I was considering getting groupon deal for 4 people. Since we live an hour
   > away from there, we were wondering about if there would be trail rides schedule
   > on weekdays starting on March10th~14th (Spring Break)? Do we need to make reservation?
 * Re: the Groupon references in a couple of those comments, a large portion of 
   the business that the ranch gets comes from a Groupon offer. This deal isn’t 
   mentioned anywhere on the site, which means that those comments couldn’t come
   from spammers mining the site for random data they can use to make a comment 
   sound legit.
 * If that’s not enough evidence, I looked up the IP addresses recorded with these
   comments. Almost all of them come from hosts in Texas from what I can see. We’re
   a Texas-based company, so that lends further credence to my theory.
 * Part of my concern, as you can imagine, is that people are sending these comments
   in and expecting a reply, but as far as I know nobody saw these comments until
   I found them yesterday. That means we’ve got potentially-dissatisfied customers
   out there, and I want to prevent that from happening in the future.
 *  [catacaustic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/catacaustic/)
 * (@catacaustic)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/page-comments-without-a-form/#post-4921231)
 * So respond to these people either on the comments page, or via email. You’ll 
   either get a response, or you’ll get nothing. Either way you’ll know what you’re
   dealing with. 🙂
 *  [webbrewers](https://wordpress.org/support/users/webbrewers/)
 * (@webbrewers)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/page-comments-without-a-form/#post-4921232)
 * As you know comments have to be turned off at the post/page level and they should
   tell you which page/post they were submitted on. It’s very easy to miss blocking
   comments on a few pages…….If those pages/posts don’t have comments open, they
   must have been open at some point for submissions to have been made.
    Then I’d
   make sure you’ve enabled email alerts so you know if any new comments are made.
 *  Thread Starter [jsbarrett](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jsbarrett/)
 * (@jsbarrett)
 * [12 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/page-comments-without-a-form/#post-4921262)
 * Thanks. I was already planning on contacting these folks. I just wanted to know
   if there was any possible way for their comments to have been submitted without
   a form being on the page, like through some little-known back door method.
 * While chatting just now with the person who runs the ranch, I was told that they“
   forgot” that there were comments allowed before, and they were just recently 
   disabled. Nice to get that info after spending hours trying to track down what
   I thought was a bug in the system. *sigh* Thanks for your help and patience.

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