Huh, I guess I'd never noticed that TPV reorders the menu order if I drag items. Interesting.
Instead I've been frustrated that TPV uses the menu order instead of allowing itself to be sorted by 'title' or 'date'.
To resolve that, I've added a global variable
cms_tpv_get_pages() and then change the arguments array so that
"orderby" => $cms_tpv_orderby ? $cms_tpv_orderby : "menu_order", instead of just defaulting to menu_order. This way I can override the sort order by simply setting the global
$cms_tpv_orderby = 'title' (for example) in my own
This works fine (except that I have to recreate it after each update). I was going to ask that this be moved into the core plugin itself, but now I realize this might make a big mess of the reordering that TPV does based on menu_order. Since I never tried that, I never noticed.
Hm. Not sure what is right now. I sure do find my long lists of page much easier to navigate in title order, but that would make reordering a bit nonsensical. Maybe if a few options were built in to TPV, it could turn off the reordering when other orderby options were in force.