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  • Resolved Mr. Peri

    (@mr-peri)


    Good day,

    Since the new update and the implementation of the new block editor literally ALL my sites are a complete mess. The front end looks fine, but editing is an absolute nightmare. We are a web development company and have been developing sites using the WP Bakery/Visual Composer builder for 5 years now…so you can imagine how many clients I have and how many websites are currently facing this issue.

    My problem is, after the last update the new block editor took ALL my page info and dumped them into the new block editor using the VC code snippets to distinguish between the rows, columns, elements, etc. The WP Bakery builder is empty. And there is no option to switch between the new builder, the classic builder or WP Bakery builder. It’s all in the new blocks builder. So if i use the fix mentioned on another forum, to download the classic builder and then disable this stupid gutenburg blocks builder, ALL my info disappears.

    I can not explain to you how many sites I have currently facing this issue. Well, every site we have built in the last 5 years. 8 sites currently under construction that we either have to re-build from scratch or you need to bring a fix out ASAP for this. After the new blocks builder came out the 1st time I had the option to choose between the new builder the classic builder and WP builder, all the content were in the same field, just the builder changed. Now it’s all separate and ALL my info is in code in the blocks builder and NOTHING is in WP Bakery builder where it was originally built.

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE change this back so that I can just swap between the builders instead of having to now rebuild EVERY SINGLE PAGE on EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE we are currently running (i’m talking close to 150 sites here, some as big as 40 pages, some shops with over 2000 products…i can not possible sit and re-do all of that).

    I don’t understand how you possibly thought this was a good idea…every person who has built on any other editor other than the classic wordpress editor is now facing the same nonsense!!

    Example, if I open this simple contact page now: https://bundutec.co.za/contact-bundutec/

    This is the back-end in the Blocks builder and the WP Bakery builder (where it was built in originally) is empty…so it’s all code, no visuals:

    [vc_row full_width=”stretch_row” parallax=”content-moving-fade” parallax_image=”799″ parallax_speed_bg=”1″ css=”.vc_custom_1538669189077{margin-top: -30px !important;margin-bottom: 0px !important;padding-top: 50px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;}”][vc_column width=”1/2″][vc_row_inner content_placement=”middle” css=”.vc_custom_1529419074206{margin-bottom: 10px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;}”][vc_column_inner width=”1/6″ css=”.vc_custom_1528709506370{margin-right: 0px !important;margin-bottom: 0px !important;padding-right: 0px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;}”][vc_single_image image=”527″ img_size=”87×74″ alignment=”center” css_animation=”fadeInLeft” css=”.vc_custom_1529392504140{margin-right: 0px !important;margin-bottom: 0px !important;padding-right: 0px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;}”][/vc_column_inner][vc_column_inner width=”2/6″ css=”.vc_custom_1529419100741{margin-right: -20px !important;margin-bottom: 0px !important;margin-left: 0px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;padding-left: 0px !important;}”][vc_custom_heading text=”Get hold of us” font_container=”tag:h2|text_align:center” use_theme_fonts=”yes” css_animation=”fadeInLeft” css=”.vc_custom_1529418826194{margin-bottom: 0px !important;margin-left: 0px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;padding-left: 0px !important;}”][/vc_column_inner][vc_column_inner width=”3/6″][/vc_column_inner][/vc_row_inner][vc_column_text] Mon-Fri: 08:00-17:00

    +27 (0)63 872 7667

    info@bundutec.co.za

    Unit 4
    Fairpark Road
    (enter 521 Pretoria Road into your GPS)
    Fairleads | Benoni
    1501

    -26.1280913, 28.3547486

    Click here to find a dealer in your area[/vc_column_text][vc_row_inner css=”.vc_custom_1529418930451{padding-right: 300px !important;}”][vc_column_inner width=”1/4″ offset=”vc_hidden-md vc_hidden-sm vc_hidden-xs”][hover_box target=”_blank” image=”59″ image_hover=”58″ link=”https://www.facebook.com/Bundutec/”%5D%5B/vc_column_inner%5D%5Bvc_column_inner width=”1/4″ offset=”vc_hidden-md vc_hidden-sm vc_hidden-xs”][hover_box target=”_blank” image=”71″ image_hover=”70″ link=”https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Gp-RKGmkFf2HgE0YLnjLg”%5D%5B/vc_column_inner%5D%5Bvc_column_inner width=”1/4″ offset=”vc_hidden-md vc_hidden-sm vc_hidden-xs”][hover_box target=”_blank” image=”781″ image_hover=”780″ link=”https://www.instagram.com/bundutec_rsa/”%5D%5B/vc_column_inner%5D%5Bvc_column_inner width=”1/4″ offset=”vc_hidden-md vc_hidden-sm vc_hidden-xs”][hover_box target=”_blank” image=”65″ image_hover=”64″ link=”https://plus.google.com/u/0/116844511111660070480″%5D%5B/vc_column_inner%5D%5B/vc_row_inner%5D%5Bvc_row_inner css=”.vc_custom_1529418974079{padding-right: 50px !important;padding-left: 50px !important;}”][vc_column_inner width=”1/4″ offset=”vc_hidden-lg”][hover_box target=”_blank” image=”59″ image_hover=”58″ link=”https://www.facebook.com/Bundutec/”%5D%5B/vc_column_inner%5D%5Bvc_column_inner width=”1/4″ offset=”vc_hidden-lg”][hover_box target=”_blank” image=”71″ image_hover=”70″ link=”https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Gp-RKGmkFf2HgE0YLnjLg”%5D%5B/vc_column_inner%5D%5Bvc_column_inner width=”1/4″ offset=”vc_hidden-lg”][hover_box target=”_blank” image=”781″ image_hover=”780″ link=”https://www.instagram.com/bundutec_rsa/”%5D%5B/vc_column_inner%5D%5Bvc_column_inner width=”1/4″ offset=”vc_hidden-lg”][hover_box target=”_blank” image=”65″ image_hover=”64″ link=”https://plus.google.com/u/0/116844511111660070480″%5D%5B/vc_column_inner%5D%5B/vc_row_inner%5D%5B/vc_column%5D%5Bvc_column width=”1/2″][vc_row_inner content_placement=”middle” css=”.vc_custom_1529419081378{margin-bottom: 10px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;}”][vc_column_inner width=”1/6″ css=”.vc_custom_1528709506370{margin-right: 0px !important;margin-bottom: 0px !important;padding-right: 0px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;}”][vc_single_image image=”527″ img_size=”87×74″ alignment=”center” css_animation=”fadeInLeft” css=”.vc_custom_1529392631289{margin-right: 0px !important;margin-bottom: 0px !important;padding-right: 0px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;}”][/vc_column_inner][vc_column_inner width=”3/6″ css=”.vc_custom_1528709514704{margin-bottom: 0px !important;margin-left: 0px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;padding-left: 0px !important;}”][vc_custom_heading text=”Send us a message” font_container=”tag:h2|text_align:center” use_theme_fonts=”yes” css_animation=”fadeInLeft” css=”.vc_custom_1529418838526{margin-bottom: 0px !important;margin-left: 0px !important;padding-bottom: 0px !important;padding-left: 0px !important;}”][/vc_column_inner][vc_column_inner width=”2/6″][/vc_column_inner][/vc_row_inner][contact-form-7 id=”4″][/vc_column][/vc_row][vc_row full_width=”stretch_row_content_no_spaces” css=”.vc_custom_1538669201222{margin-top: 0px !important;margin-bottom: -40px !important;padding-top: 0px !important;}”][vc_column css=”.vc_custom_1538671880098{margin-top: 0px !important;padding-top: 0px !important;}”][map zoom=”16″ height=”400″ border=”0″ lat=”-26.1280913″ lng=”28.3547486″ icon=”530″][/map][/vc_column][/vc_row]

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  • The front end looks fine, but editing is an absolute nightmare.

    instead of having to now rebuild EVERY SINGLE PAGE on EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE we are currently running

    These two statements don’t go together.
    If you don’t edit a page, nothing changed for that page. If you do edit a page, you have a revision? Did you save the changes as a mess?
    Have you asked your plugin authors when their plugins will be compatible with the new editor?

    Have you tried installing Classic Editor plugin and continuing as you were before?

    Moderator Steven Stern (sterndata)

    (@sterndata)

    Forum Moderator & Support Team Volunteer

    Install the “Classic Editor”. It’s one of the first you see at PLUGINS->ADD NEW

    Thread Starter Mr. Peri

    (@mr-peri)

    The problem is, instead of having one place to edit info as before and then simply switching between what editor i want to use by clicking a button, the builders are all separate now, so if i disable one editor, the other editors stay there, but the info that was in that editor that I now disabled are gone. Everything was built in WP Bakery, I don’t know why they felt the need to move it out of WP Bakery’s builder into the Blocks Builder, but that is where it is, all in code. So if I now disable the Block’s builder, the info/content doesn’t jumps to the WP Bakery builder, it disappears with the disabled Block builder, leaving my pages blank.

    So it’s not to do with making changes and saving or not saving it and revisions and such…it’s got to do with, when wordpress did the last update (which updated automatically across all my sites), the Block builder made changes all by itself and moved all my info/content out of WP Bakery builder to Block builder and now everything is a coded mess in Block builder. If i disable Block Builder it disables the content in that builder and the WP bakery builder stays empty.

    from the 1 million+ downloads of the classic builder i can see that 1 million+ people are facing similar issues. But if I try to install it i get a 500 server error so now i am troubleshooting that first…

    Moderator Steven Stern (sterndata)

    (@sterndata)

    Forum Moderator & Support Team Volunteer

    When you start using a page builder plugin, you pretty much lock your site into it for the long haul. To continue with WPBakery, use the Classic Editor until they figure out how to integrate well with the new Block Editor. (I’d contact their support for specific on that.)

    If your posts are messed up *after* you have classic editor installed, you may fix things by restoring a backup from before the 5.x update.

    So it’s not to do with making changes and saving or not saving it and revisions and such…it’s got to do with, when wordpress did the last update (which updated automatically across all my sites), the Block builder made changes all by itself and moved all my info/content out of WP Bakery builder to Block builder and now everything is a coded mess in Block builder.

    This isn’t actually true. The 5.0 release was not automatic unless your host did that. And the editor does not affect any content that you are not editing.

    Thread Starter Mr. Peri

    (@mr-peri)

    Thanks Joy, but that is not actually my issue or the point of this post, weather it updated automatically or not (which it did) is not my concern, and I did not say the builder CHANGED my content, I did say it MOVED it from one builder to another builder and set all the element from the previous builder into code (as can be seen in my 1st post here…now imagine my little intern developer having to work like that…?). I am conveying the problem as it is on my sites currently, i promise I’m not making any of this up just to take the piss out of people on the forum so fighting with me about the facts in MY problem on MY sites really doesn’t help me solve the issue. I did not paint hypothetical situations or made suggestions of possible issues of any kind, i said here’s what happened (which is really really what happened), here’s how it looks now (which is really really what it looks like now), WTF how could they, how do i fix without losing my content…that was it.

    Any way,

    Thanks Steven, i couldn’t install the classic builder, it clashed with a crucial plugin i can not uninstall, so I had to dig through my back-ups and restore the site from an old point before the update happened and had to disable my security plugin that I use as that is what seems to initiate the automatic updates (for security measures obviously)…problem is, until everything speaks to one another again, I have to do this to all my sites…so far we are on site nr 35 that we had to revert to an old back-up…we still have 76 to go (AAAAARHG!!!!).

    It’s beyond my comprehension how WordPress could make such a crucial change in their structure when most people out there uses themes with builders in them. The mere fact that in a few weeks of them doing this there have been over 1 million downloads for the classic builder shows that they did not think this through very well…my opinion… and apparently the opinion of 1 million+ other people as well …

    Moderator Steven Stern (sterndata)

    (@sterndata)

    Forum Moderator & Support Team Volunteer

    >> i couldn’t install the classic builder, it clashed with a crucial plugin i can not uninstall <<

    What plugin “clashed” with the Classic Editor ( not “classic builder” ) and how did it conflict?

    Moderator Samuel Wood (Otto)

    (@otto42)

    WordPress.org Admin

    that is not actually my issue or the point of this post, weather it updated automatically or not (which it did) is not my concern

    It did not. Your hosting service or your installer system may have upgraded you, however WordPress does not and never has automatically upgraded to new major versions like 5.0.

    I did say it MOVED it from one builder to another builder and set all the element from the previous builder into code (as can be seen in my 1st post here…now imagine my little intern developer having to work like that…?). I am conveying the problem as it is on my sites currently, i promise I’m not making any of this up just to take the piss out of people on the forum so fighting with me about the facts in MY problem on MY sites really doesn’t help me solve the issue.

    I do believe you, however, “moving” is a strong word.

    WordPress contains a new editor, the block editor. Your previous page builder likely relied on the pre-existing editor, now called the Classic Editor. So without that old editor, your page builder didn’t load, and you got a glimpse at the raw code behind your site.

    That “mess” of shortcodes is what your page builder produces. Raw, more or less. WordPress’s built in editor doesn’t produce that, either the new or the old one.

    I did not paint hypothetical situations or made suggestions of possible issues of any kind, i said here’s what happened (which is really really what happened), here’s how it looks now (which is really really what it looks like now), WTF how could they, how do i fix without losing my content…that was it.

    Fair enough. Installing the Classic Editor plugin would be the correct solution. With the Classic Editor plugin, the old editor is restored, and your existing page builder plugin can continue to be used.

    i couldn’t install the classic builder, it clashed with a crucial plugin i can not uninstall, so I had to dig through my back-ups and restore the site from an old point before the update happened

    What plugin is “clashing”? As far as we know, no plugins “clash” with the Classic Editor. It’s actually a quite simple plugin that sets a setting in WordPress to disable the editor on posts and pages. It also has a few other options to allow you to choose which editor to use at any point in time, on a post by post basis.

    But it cannot “clash” with anything. It’s too tiny and has too small of a footprint to do so.

    and had to disable my security plugin that I use as that is what seems to initiate the automatic updates (for security measures obviously)

    Well, glad we cleared that up.

    …problem is, until everything speaks to one another again, I have to do this to all my sites…so far we are on site nr 35 that we had to revert to an old back-up…we still have 76 to go (AAAAARHG!!!!).

    In this case, restoring from backups seems like extreme measures. The Classic Editor plugin will likely be a better long term choice for you, as it will offer you the ability to use your existing page builder plugins while migrating to the new editor when those page builders are updated to take advantage of its features.

    It’s beyond my comprehension how WordPress could make such a crucial change in their structure when most people out there uses themes with builders in them.

    Actually, most people don’t use page builders. The stats on page builder usage, as a whole, clock in at a little under 10% of sites. The vast majority of sites use the WordPress tools, without adding page builders onto them.

    Now, these numbers only count plugins and known page builders, and may not count non-free themes with customized page builders built-into them, but as always, I recommend avoiding those types of themes at all costs. They often have long term security issues as such code in themes rarely gets updated like plugins do, and end up being vulnerable targets when holes in the underlying libraries are found. Simpler themes tend to work better than those that include the kitchen sink.

    The mere fact that in a few weeks of them doing this there have been over 1 million downloads for the classic builder shows that they did not think this through very well…my opinion… and apparently the opinion of 1 million+ other people as well …

    No, that was expected and indeed planned for. The number of people using the Classic Editor roughly corresponds with the number of estimated people using page builders or other advanced editor enhancements. Those were expected backward compatibility breaks, and that’s why the Classic Editor exists; it offers a smoother migration path for that minority of users, who will need more time to update their plugins and themes to take advantages of the new block editor.

    Just add the Classic Editor Plugin and you’ll have the best of both worlds.
    What happened to me is that several plugins I use are not adjusted to the new editor.
    https://kinsta.com/blog/disable-gutenberg-wordpress-editor/

    I agree with Mr Peri.. My client site theme used wp bakery. I used gutenberg to edit or make pages as was easiest for client staff to use.

    After the New update result: Staff can no longer use gutenberg editor as it wont save or update. It appears to ‘fight’ with wp bakery but cannot turn off wp bakery or whole theme looks a mess. I have installed classic editor so can add a post but to be frank, it looks shit. very basic.
    Hopefully WordPress will sort this out and one day they can add nice pullquotes and so on again using the gutenberg editor. IN meantime I will have to train them to use wp bakery editor.

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