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  • FYI: I’m getting some very weird rendering of this site in FF Alignment is way off. The site has potential though!

    It seems you have 82 html verification errors… This is probably what’s causing the odd rendering.


    Also, you might want to think of using a newer doctype than HTML 4.01. That’s quite old…

    I’m not too keen on the dreamweaver created sidebar, to be honest.

    And like mjwood mentioned – you’re missing some very critical HTML elements. I’m not sure if this is because you’re using dreamweaver or because you’re not familiar enough with how to use wordpress files and made some changes you shouldn’t have. But, for example, you’re missing the proper title tags, (and the tags you do have aren’t in the right place) which means that the search engines will only index your URL (if that) and nothing more.

    Back to the sidebar – it just doesn’t fit in with the site… I’m not sure why it’s necessary, when you can use wordpress to create the sidebar for you…

    I have looked at the webdsite in Mozilla and IE and so far it looks fine to me.

    No major Rendering problems.

    I will fix what I can.

    I guess I am going to have to look it at further to fix some more wacky errors!!?!?!?!?! And Go back to the old design!!!

    Okay I fixed over 100 errors the validator website showed off.

    That is a good start and the website it back up to look at.

    hmm – not sure how you could fix over 100, when the validator was only showing 82, and there are still 26 errors:


    some of these are basic necessities, like the doctype and other head/meta tags – they’re CRITICAL, as I said before. they’re either non-existent or in the wrong place, and will definitely make browsers have troubles reading your site properly…

    One usability issue would be to limit the number of excerpts or post on the fron page to 10?

    i agree with jwurster – though i’d lessen the amount, just to keep it inline with the sidebar (which i still think doesn’t “work” with the site…)

    The sidebar’s fine, though a lighter grey or blue-grey would be easier to read with the text color. You might like to correct the spelling of “students” (currently reads “stuents”) in one of the first few posts – kind of makes the point of the site look bad….

    I tried to put in the doctype line, but the Mozilla Browser did not like that code at all. Rendered the Firworks menu wrong. It started to add in a whole lot of white space between menu choices.

    One weeks worth of posts caused over 100 errors. Adding in one paragraph tag chunked like 40 errors.

    Um. If you’re using Fireworks etc. to write code, you WILL get errors out the gazoo in a real browser.

    I’d suggest you download the trial version of Top Style Pro from http://bradsoft.com. Quality, classy, easy to learn editor – and does NOT trash originally valid xhtml coding.

    That was my point about the dreamweaver (fireworks) created sidebar… When earlier I said,

    “…you’re missing some very critical HTML elements. I’m not sure if this is because you’re using dreamweaver or because you’re not familiar enough with how to use wordpress files and made some changes you shouldn’t have…”

    I will admit I am not 100% familiar with all the wordpress files, butttttt The fireworks code does not produce errors.


    This page fully validates with no errors for HTML 4.01 Transitional!

    100% same fireworks menu in the index.php page.

    Right – that’s a standard HTML page. You did a bangup job of getting it to validate.

    However, WordPress is PHP driven. And somewhere, somehow, you’ve removed much of the critical information from your WordPress based pages.

    As it says in the validator:

    “The DOCTYPE Declaration was not recognized or is missing. This probably means that the Formal Public Identifier contains a spelling error, or that the Declaration is not using correct syntax. Validation has been performed using a default “fallback” Document Type Definition that closely resembles “HTML 4.01 Transitional”, but the document will not be Valid until you have corrected this problem with the DOCTYPE Declaration.

    You should place a DOCTYPE declaration as the very first thing in your HTML document. For example, for a typical XHTML 1.0 document:

    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
    <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en" xml:lang="en">
    <!-- ... body of document ... -->

    (Note: I don’t think HTML Strict is the way for you to go – you should validate transitional. But the above is what appears on the validation site as an example. Using that might be what borked your sidebar. You need to use the proper DOCTYPE for what your site’s limits are… )

    So this is all MISSING from your header.php file.

    I did say that I wasn’t sure if it were dreamweaver/fireworks or if it were because you changed wordpress core elements without knowing.

    The majority of my comments related to your sidebar are simply because I don’t find it visually appealing – and you had said “I hope you like the design.” which led me to believe you were looking for feedback on it. I don’t think the sidebar should look the way it does, nor do I feel that javascript is necessary. That said, it’s YOUR site, and you’re perfectly entitled to do whatever you want – I’m just giving the feedback/opinion it appeared that you were looking for.

    You said, “I tried to put in the doctype line, but the Mozilla Browser did not like that code at all. Rendered the Firworks menu wrong. It started to add in a whole lot of white space between menu choices.”

    I don’t know where you tried to put it, or what exactly you tried to put where – but there are a lot more reasons why your elements (like the sidebar and other things) would render incorrectly – about two dozen or so reasons.

    I’m not trying to be anything other than helpful here, so if you’re reading it otherwise, please don’t. If you don’t care about how things look right now, or if it validates, or if it shows up properly or at all in anyone else’s browser but your own – that’s completely your choice. I’m just trying to respond to your first query and help you out with the problems you have, that you didn’t even know about…

    That said, until you come back and specificially ASK for help with any given thing/s – I’m probably not going to offer further direction, because I fear you’re getting a little defensive, as though maybe I’ve helped where you didn’t want it or something. A few of us have mentioned that fixing ALL those validation errors will likely fix ALL your browser compatibility issues – where you take it from there is up to you.

    Best of luck and success with the site! 🙂

    I took another look at your blog. It looks like you are linking your sidebar items directly to html pages. The one page that validated is to a php script. My question is how did you make your blog items that are linked to by the sidebar? Did you maybe take some existing html pages you had and used them? Just guessing.

    Well jwurster, the website before I tried to use wordpress was all HTML, the big fireworks based menu that linked to a whole load of HTML pages, and a little javascript I created on few pages for a small menu. Been around for a couple years.

    I wanted to use the WordPress software so I could webupdate the webpage and to add some search abilities on all the stuff I post to the main page.

    When I tried to put in the doctype line in I put it on line one of the webpage like they want you to do. Strange that IE did not render the menu wrong at all.

    I am not a complete expert on doctype stuff. I would like to get rid as many of the errors as I can. The less errors the better imo.

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