• Resolved 3tonine

    (@3tonine)


    First thing first, this plugin is solid, perhaps the best among competitors (actually we don’t have real competiters in the WordPress world right:) My overall experience with this plugin is pleasant. Issues I listed below they are no major failures, just worth considering in future updates, in my opinion.

    Every now and then, the plugin fails to pull the feature pictures out and uses them as thumbnails, this is not new in this forum, and I’m here to further confirm that. While custom image size is set, it doesn’t show in live, but only stays in admin page.

    There’s no other custom option to help the plugin fit into different responsive themes when certain preset options fail. Columns and rows numbers, text float direction and position, these should be basic offer. If there’s a debug procedure we can take, I’d love to trace down where the hack have all my exerpts gone too. I really do 🙂

    I think a responsive layout should be more promising than a separate mobile theme section. We now have all kinds of different devices, with a wide range of screen sizes we need to take care of. Somehow the plugin is stuck with one item a row, only one column even on a 1024px wide screen handheld. And two-column or three-column list view on a 16:9 pc screen, both layouts which consist of unexpectable numbers of thumbnails in rows, no matter what preset style is picked.

    Yes, this is a “related post” plugin, but it’s just good sense that some popular or chosen topics should also be included, in addition to the related post list, so the plugin can be a more complete solution to sitewide post foot areas, for “site promotion” purpose. Or else, what purpose should this plugin serves?

    I have high hope for this dev team, because what this plugin can already do is impressive. Pinterest layout, load more post button, etc, just amazing (when they work). Looking forwards so much to the next version 🙂 cheers!

    http://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-23-related-posts-plugin/

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  • Hey!

    Big, big thank you for your detailed, thorough, honest feedback of our service! As a team dedicated to take care of the smallest detail in our product, as well as nurturing a somewhat big picture of a direction where we want to be headed at, these kind of user-insights are surely much appreciated!

    All your points are valid and we can completely understand why they might be poking someone’s eye.

    The problem(s) with the featured image (or thumbnails in general), for example, has been mentioned a couple of times before, but we were just not able to get to the bottom of it, since we couldn’t replicate it on our end, nor were we granted any permissions to WP Dashboards where this was happening. Wherever we looked for some extra clues, hints, loops to get some more info from, we sooner or later slammed into a closed door. So we’re still on it, any help on this is appreciated!

    The excerpts problem is being investigated as we speak. We certainly hope this will be resolved sooner than later, but we’ll definitely keep you in the loop. As for any other display errors that might occur on different themes/devices — we are always accessible for helping you out! 🙂

    We are planning to simplify our plugin settings in the near future, to skim & combine some of our features in order not to confuse our users too much. By saying that, our intentions are to make our related posts more responsive on different screen resolutions, so mobile devices are definitely on our “Update list”.

    As for that last point of yours — you won’t believe the amount of hate & accusations we had to swallow when we wanted to introduce other interesting, relevant content from around the web. We later put a widget in the compose screen where users were given the option to add those articles themselves, but we are also looking for other ways on how to deal with this feature, since we are confident enough that we are the best ones as far as related, trusted content is concerned.

    So, to sum it up: yes, we are aware about our flaws and we are constantly fighting them, by encouraging our users to get in touch with us and to deal with them either by fixing/updating our plugin or by assisting them on their end. Unfortunately, not all bugs can be fixed via updates, since some of them are triggered on the users end. But as I said before: we are more than willing to help! 🙂

    Sorry for this long, too long reply (sometimes I just can’t stop myself), but please do let me know if you have any more questions, since I’m ready to help!

    Take care & have a nice day!

    Best,
    Silvo

    Thread Starter 3tonine

    (@3tonine)

    Much much appreciated, your reply, and the attitude it shows. (Hat off & bow 🙂

    Let’s cut to the chase, yes, site owners do all kinds of stuff to their sites, sometimes so unexpectable and weird, it’s just hard to answer everyone’s needs but I gotta say, a right direction can always be pointed out with determination and a clear mind… (cut the crap pls… lol)

    Alright I’ll list my points from now on:

    Preview and excerpts:

    I think the plugin should have a default option to just get the feature image and the manual excerpt for a post, this way, the process is straight forward, and everyone knows what to do to work with the plugin. Auto generate thumbnails and excerpts should always be second choice or a fallback when the default option fails. And if for now, this plugin can’t work with shortcoded content, php content, let’s put them on hold and warn people, always always, manually prepare your feature images and excerpts before you put posts in the pool.

    Layout:

    I’d break the whole thing into let say 3 parts. i) Related posts, ii) Pagination/Load more button and iii) Promotions

    “List view wrapped in floating block elements” as default theme, for all kinds of device, all you need to do is to decided the post numbers, thumbnail size, text position and character counts. This way the layout is already responsive and always fitting the parent post width. All other additional choices are just fancy, not even worth their places in the core. (Or you can always put them in premium version 🙂

    Turning on off the plugin’s mobile theme section if a user not considering giving the list different thumbnail size and text number, text postion and direction, on smaller screens. That should end the layout’s basic feature. For how to load more related posts (ii), it should be just a replication of the first part (i), So if the first part works, the second part should also work. It can be as simple as an ajax button, or links of tags leading to the archive pages.

    The third part is like this (and I’m pretty sure you should add it, no matter how many people against it, and I can sense that you want to do it 🙂 a promotion area. It can be as simple as pulling a number of random posts from the “other taxonomies”, or an extra input box appears on every post edit page for people to put whatever they what there. Kind of works like a second manual excerpt area. But its content only shown with this plugin. And this is where you can do all kinds of magics, connecting to zemanta server, interacting with affiliate sites, showing ads, editors’ choices, newsletter submit, social sharing codes, author card, you name it. Eventually it becomes a signature showing the site is powered by zemanta, without even showing a powered by message.

    Cough… enough of bullxxxx from me, these barely qualified suggestions are just what I have to say, in the name of wordpress’s sharing spirit, with my very limited English. If code is poetry, let’s see zemanta’s work become an epic poem. Now let’s all go back to our real jobs and continue to live on our coffee, my best to you.

    Ev.

    PS. As in debug process, I think the plugin must be able to “fail”, so some plugin specified error messages can show up in the log. Instead of having the safety net to showing a default image, an empty excerpt box, a default list view, a default styling sheet… etc.

    Hey,

    thanks for all your suggestions/ideas, we rarely get such detailed feedback and we appreciate it 🙂 We’ll think about everything and see if it fits our future plans for this plugin.

    Thanks again,
    Mateja

    P.S.: I’ll mark this topic as resolved.

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