Support » Plugin: Google Webfonts For Woo Framework » Missing "Light" Option for Open Sans

  • Resolved jjacobo


    I installed this plugin and entered in an API key and saved the settings which seemed to work. Now in my theme options for Canvas I’m seeing hundreds of new fonts. The problem I’m having is that I am looking to use Open Sans with the Light option. I can see this option the plugin preview settings page but I can’t actually select it in the Canvas theme options. It’s not available within the dropdown.

    Help would be appreciated.

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  • Plugin Author Jason Judge


    Open Sans and Open Sans Condensed, comes in “Thin” weights (300) but not “Light” (200). This means your previews of ultra-light, light and thin, will all look the same.

    Whether the theme aks the browser to display a “faux” thin, and whether the browser will support that, is another thing altogether.

    However, having looked at the Google Open Sans page, there does appear to be a Light/300:

    This plugin just displays the names for convenience, but the names do not have any impact on what does and does not get displayed. The plugin will ask Google for the “300” weight of Open Sans, and whatever that is equivalent to in the browser and theme, it will be displayed. I’ll check the names Google uses against the lists I have from other sources – it seems every font provider makes up their own names, and they can sometimes clash.

    Plugin Author Jason Judge


    Here is how Typekit maps the names to the weights:

    100 = thin
    200 = extra-light
    300 = light
    400 = normal, book
    500 = medium
    600 = demi-bold
    700 = bold
    800 = heavy
    900 = black

    Here is another take, used by webtype:

    100 Extra Light or Ultra Light
    200 Light or Thin
    300 Book or Demi
    400 Normal or Regular
    500 Medium
    600 Semibold, Demibold
    700 Bold
    800 Black, Extra Bold or Heavy
    900 Extra Black, Fat, Poster or Ultra Black

    Yet more definitions:

    100: Ultra Light
    200: Thin
    300: Light
    400: Regular
    500: Semi Bold
    600: Bold
    700: Extra Bold
    800: Heavy
    900: Ultra Heavy

    I’ll update the plugin for the next release to make it a little more clear, and lean towards what Google uses for the names.

    In the meantime, you want the 300 weight, and that is being loaded for you, so there is no rush for any changes to the labelling 🙂

    Plugin Author Jason Judge


    This is what W3C says about it:

    Weights: normal | bold | bolder | lighter | 100 | 200 | 300 | 400 | 500 | 600 | 700 | 800 | 900 | inherit

    “The ‘font-weight’ property selects the weight of the font. The values ‘100’ to ‘900’ form an ordered sequence, where each number indicates a weight that is at least as dark as its predecessor. The keyword ‘normal’ is synonymous with ‘400’, and ‘bold’ is synonymous with ‘700’. Keywords other than ‘normal’ and ‘bold’ have been shown to be often confused with font names and a numerical scale was therefore chosen for the 9-value list.”

    So there you go: only “normal” and “bold” are support by the standards, and all the other names are up to the whim of ythe browser renderers. If you want weight “300”, then the recommendation is to use weight “300” and not “thin” or “light” or “book” or “demi”, as that *will* mean different things to different browsers that use different rendering engines.

    I’m sure there will be an outright winner in the end, but the dust has not settled yet on how font weights are handled.

    Sorry this became an essay, but I never stop learning how deep and complex this stuff goes.

    Let me know if this resolves your issue, i.e. if looking closer, the theme actually is displaying the weight you want. You may need to take a look at the weight values that Canvas uses to select fonts.

    Actually, what the hell, here it is:

    300 = Thin
    300 italic = Thin/Italic
    normal = Normal (aka 400)
    italic = Italic (aka 400)
    bold = Bold (aka 700)
    bold italic = Bold/Italic (aka 700)

    Looking at this, the weights that Canvas supports look pretty pathetic compared to what Google provides. It just does normal, “thin” (aka Google’s “light”) and bold. There are another six weights that Canvas does not even recognise. Raise that as a feature request with WooThemes!

    It may be useful for me to add an option to this plugin to restrict the loaded font weights to 300/400/700 only. For people using just the stock Canvas and no custom CSS, that option would speed up the loading of the fonts, as it would not be loading weights that are never used.

    Plugin Author Jason Judge


    I’ll close this ticket, though I do still have some actions from it (for example, being able to choose not to load the weights from Google that the theme simply does not support of the box and so many people will not be using).

    The answer to your original question about the missing “light” weight, is that it is there as weight 300, but it is called “Thin” in the WooThemes’ theme, and called “Book/Thin” in the plugin.

    If it really isn’t working for you, please feel free to reopen the ticket.

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