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[resolved] Menu and Text Disappeared and Unable to key in text (19 posts)

  1. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    The wierdest thing happened. Now Tiny Forge does not display a menu or display any text on the pages. And I cannot edit a page with text (entry not allowed). For a test I activated TwentyTen, and everything shows again.

    This does not make any sense. My client said all she did was adding an image to a gallery and hit something like "search image" before this happened.

    Any idea?

    Mary

  2. Tomas Mackevicius
    Member
    Theme Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Did you try to upload a fresh copy of Tiny Forge? It might be file corruption.

    Also check public_html (root) folder of the website and look for the error log file, it might give you a better understanding what happened.

    Also it is a good idea to check if site was not hacked, etc.

  3. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Tom,

    Yes, I deleted the theme from the server, reloaded and reactivated, and the results were the same. There is no error log anywhere.

    Oh I didn't tell you that the gallery is from the NextGen plugin. Wonder if there is some incompatibility issue under certain condition? There can be so many variables. One thing I did not do was to deactivate plugins one by one and recheck. Perhaps I will do that later when I am not pressed for time.

    Thanks,
    Mary

  4. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK, I just tried again: Deactivated every plugin one by one and rechecked step by step. No change in result. Then, for one more time, I deleted Tiny Forge from the server and reinstalled and reactivated. Still it did not work.

    More puzzling is it does not work even after NextGen was deactivated.

    Don't think the site was hacked, as the other themes work with the setup.

    So I am thinking I will stay with Whispy for a while until your next release.

    Thanks,
    Mary

  5. Tomas Mackevicius
    Member
    Theme Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Mary, can you send me email, I will send you the latest version I have in development now. Email is in readme.txt.

    Another idea. You said that Twenty Ten is working normally. What about activating Twenty Twelve? And what is your WP version - 3.8.1?

  6. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Tomas,

    I accessed your website to send you an email. I look forward to the beta version. I use WP 3.8.1.

    New finding: Your website behaves exactly like the problem I have with the Tiny Forge theme: No menu and no text when browsed with Safaris (my default browser). That gave me a fit, so I immediately switched to FireFox, and it was fine. Now it appears to boil down to a browser compatibility issue (at least on my Windows 7 platform)? I confess that I did not re-browse with FireFox or IE after I deleted and reinstalled Tiny Forge. However, I did check it out with other browsers before deleting Tiny Forge from the server.

    I had test-switched to both TwentyTen and Whispy. Both looked well on Safaris. Now I have switched the site back to Tiny Forge again (http://www.lettyhussonart.com). Note: The Home Page is incomplete, but most other pages have content. Again: I don't see the menu nor any text when browsed with Safaris. But when browsed with FireFox and Chrome, it is as it should be

    Getting more intriguing...

  7. Tomas Mackevicius
    Member
    Theme Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Mary, Twenty Ten is a bit older theme, try Twenty Twelve for the comparison, because that is the one that matters the most ;)

    For now it looks to me like an isolated Safari issue on your PC.

  8. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Tomas, it does not work with Twenty Twelve either - when browsed with Safari for Windows. I tested both on my desktop and laptop.

    One observation: Both Tiny Forge and Twenty Twelve are responsive themes. TwentyTen and Whispy (which are not responsive themes) display the site correctly on Safari for Windows on my Windows 7 desktop and laptop.

    Having said that, even more puzzling is that Tiny Forge was working fine on Safari for Windows until yesterday.

  9. Tomas Mackevicius
    Member
    Theme Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Looks like Safari doesn't understand media queries... really bad browser :)))

    I read, that even iTunes on Windows is very crappy program, that Apple is doing this intentionally, to make appear, that Windows is bad OS.

    It's good that not many are using Safari on Win machines.

  10. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hahaha!

    I like Safari (even for Windows) because it has always been reliable - with a pure and simple interface. It is not inundated with irrelevant links and annoying ads, etc. This is the first time I see a problem.

  11. batharoy
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    The latest version of Safari for Windows is almost 2 years old and no longer supported. I don't think I would use it as your default browser as it doesn't even receive security updates.

  12. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    It is OK if I don't use it. That's not a big deal. But the fact is it is still considered a major browser.

  13. Tomas Mackevicius
    Member
    Theme Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    So the issue was related to an old unsupported browser. Let dinosaurs be the history :)

    Marking as resolved.

  14. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    It is up to you to decide whether it's ok to write off the Safari-for Windows population. Hwvr, dinosaurs or not, Safari for Windows is still quite popular and, honestly, I never had a problem with it until now with Tiny Forge. Having said that, I am still not sure whether the problem is limited to my desktop and laptop. I will need to ask other Safari-for-Windows people to test it. If it proves to be a universal problem, I may have to, unfortunately - much as I like Tiny Forge - switch to another more accommodating theme.

  15. Tomas Mackevicius
    Member
    Theme Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Doe's anyone optimizes sites for Internet Explorer 6?

    I don't think so, but it has greater market share than Safari 5.1 (last version for Windows).

    Let's look at the stats:

    http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0&qpob=ColumnName+DESC

    Safari 5.1 with 1.13%:

    http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=3&qpaf=&qpcustom=Safari+5.1&qpcustomb=0

    vs IE 6 with 4.65%:

    http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=3&qpaf=&qpcustom=Microsoft+Internet+Explorer+6.0&qpcustomb=0

    If WordPress official default themes doesn't support it, that means it is no way popular ;)

  16. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    It's OK not to support Safari for Windows, even though it is a subjective decision and, dare I say, may even be a bad decision.

    I am tending toward Chrome at this time. Hwvr, I may have to embed a line in an image file on the website with something like "best viewed with non-Safari brower". ;)

  17. batharoy
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I did confirm no text or menu with safari 5.1 on windows, it is not just your machine.
    I would recommend asking a friend with an apple computer to visit your site with safari and report what they see.
    My prediction is the site will view fine because they have an updated browser.

  18. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Oh thanks! Have you tried Tomas' site as well (http://mtomas.com/).

    If the situation is the same, then this is a good confirmation. Think we need to look at another "resposive" site. My suspicion is browsers need to do something to accommodate this new wave of "responsive" webs.

    Re Safari on Mac and iPhone. They are OK - already tested by Tomas and a friend of mine. It's just the version for Windows that Apple does not want to update. Generally there is no problem at all, just that I happen to be using Tiny Forge, which IMO is the best looking of the basic WP themes

  19. Mary255
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Revising my initial assumption that Safari for Windows does not respond to "responsive" themes. I have since tested a few responsive themes and they are displaying correctly. The mystery continues...!

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