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[resolved] Media Manager Usability Issue (RC43.5) (10 posts)

  1. Old Account
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    unlike previous versions (3.4) it doesn't actually show what attachments are attached to a post in the media manager when not inserted into post.

    Steps to duplicate.

    1. create new post
    2. add media(audio) and close tab
    3. go back into post and it doesnt show any media selected, but if you pull the attachment from the theme its there.

    In previous versions of you attached media youd be able to see what was attached to the post

    I know theres the created gallery/uploaded to this post, but its not displaying the audio, actually other than going into the media page thered be no way to tell I have a mp3 attached to the post which seems kind of confusing, maybe Im missing something though.

  2. Marty Spellerberg
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Not sure if we're talking about the same thing, but on the Media Library screen there's a drop-down above the grid of thumbnails labeled "All Media Items." It can be used to filter the view, and one of them is "Uploaded to this Post"

  3. Old Account
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Yes it shows whats been uploaded but not whats actually attached

  4. Andrew Nacin
    Lead Developer
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Yes it shows whats been uploaded but not whats actually attached

    It's the same. To populate "Uploaded to this post", we query for everything attached to that post.

    If you're creating a gallery, "Uploaded to this post" will only show images, as galleries only allow images. If you're under "Insert media," it will show all types.

  5. Marty Spellerberg
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I guess "Attached to this Post" is a bit too technical a phrase for users, so "Uploaded" was chosen instead?

    I recall seeing some some discussion about the word "Post" in this context. Perhaps in a future version that word could be determined by the post type? "Uploaded to this Starship"?

  6. Old Account
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    It's the same. To populate "Uploaded to this post", we query for everything attached to that post.

    its not the same, for example I upload 5 mp3s to a post but only actually attach 1, it shows all 5 under "uploaded to this post" and theres no way to differentiate weather its just been uploaded or its actually attached to the post

  7. Marty Spellerberg
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    It's my impression that the current "Uploaded to post" filter has the same behavior as the previous "Gallery" tab. (Perhaps someone can confirm?)

    An image can be attached to a post without being actually referenced within the content field. It sounds like you're looking for a filter that lists only objects referenced/inserted in the content?

  8. Old Account
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    In this case Im taking about other media, not images, and for stuff thats not actually inserted into the content rather than attached to the post.

    So in 3.4 if you upload a series of mp3 files you'd get a "gallery" tab like http://d.pr/i/8l0L where you can see what media was attached to the post and delete it etc.

    but in 3.5 with the new media manager it doesnt actually show whats been attached so I have a post with media that I can pull with my theme, but the user has no idea whats actually attached to the post, nor do they have an option of deleting the attachment from the post, the only way I can see to remove an attachment is to completely delete it from the media library

  9. Drew Jaynes
    4.2 Release Lead
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hi ChrisKelley,

    but in 3.5 with the new media manager it doesnt actually show whats been attached

    If I follow these steps in 3.5 everything works as expected:

    1. I upload a jpg, mp3 and pdf to a post from within the new modal. Filtering by "Uploaded to this post" gives me a listing of those 3 files.
    2. I publish the post and navigate to the Media > Add New screen.
    3. I upload a fourth file, a pdf.
    4. Upon visiting the Media Library list table, I notice my newly-uploaded pdf is unattached. I click the Attach link and attach it to my newly published post.
    5. I navigate back to my post's editing screen and open the Add New media modal.
    6. I filter the media by selecting "Uploaded to this post" from the dropdown.
    7. All 4 attachments are displayed.

    So next question: Are you specifically referring to posts created prior to 3.5 that aren't showing all attached media using the "Uploaded to this post" filter in the dropdown?

    In this case Im taking about other media, not images, and for stuff thats not actually inserted into the content rather than attached to the post.

    Any media uploaded to a post has the post's ID as its parent, just as any media that has been any way "attached" to a post does.

    ... the only way I can see to remove an attachment is to completely delete it from the media library

    You can use the Unattach plugin for this.

  10. Old Account
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Any media uploaded to a post has the post's ID as its parent, just as any media that has been any way "attached" to a post does.

    its not a issue weather the media actually gets attached but rather that there no way to tell whats been attached in the post like pervious versions of WordPress, isnt the point of the new media system to improve how users can manage media?

    You can use the Unattach plugin for this.

    you shouldnt need a plugin to unattach

    either way Im done with this

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