Title: Large Blank Space Before Table
Last modified: August 21, 2016

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# Large Blank Space Before Table

 *  Resolved [jameshart303](https://wordpress.org/support/users/snowboy856/)
 * (@snowboy856)
 * [12 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/)
 * Hi,
 * I have installed TablePress on my site ([http://james.shift-forwarddesign.com/experience/software-skills/](http://james.shift-forwarddesign.com/experience/software-skills/))
   and I have inserted a table into one of my pages, but along with the table comes
   a large blank space which I cannot figure out how to get rid of. The space is
   visible in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari on Mac. The space goes away if I change
   the theme, and it also goes away if I use Chrome’s built-in developer tools to
   find the table’s `.dataTables_wrapper` class and removing it.
 * Upon further investigation, I discovered that if I search for `.dataTables_wrapper`
   and comment both `clear: both;` and `*zoom: 1; /* IE 7 hack, for better float
   clearing */` (again in Chrome’s developer tools,) the large space goes away. 
   However, by commenting those two css items, the sort arrows and column highlighting
   disappear.
 * Can anyone help me to sort this out?
 * Thank you! 🙂
 * [http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/tablepress/](http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/tablepress/)

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 *  Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/)
 * (@tobiasbg)
 * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852669)
 * Hi,
 * thanks for your question, and sorry for the late answer. As I was on vacation,
   I didn’t have a chance to reply earlier.
 * I’ll gladly take a look at this on your site, but unfortunately, the link you
   posted only shows a “404 Not Found” error. Could you please post a working link
   again? Thanks!
 * Regards,
    Tobias
 *  Thread Starter [jameshart303](https://wordpress.org/support/users/snowboy856/)
 * (@snowboy856)
 * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852670)
 * Hi, sorry, lately disaster struck!
 * It should work now; please try this link: [http://james.shift-forwarddesign.com/resume/software-i-know/](http://james.shift-forwarddesign.com/resume/software-i-know/)
 * Thank you for your help!
 *  Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/)
 * (@tobiasbg)
 * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852671)
 * Hi,
 * thanks for the new link.
 * Unfortunately, I have no clue why this happens. Most likely there’s something
   conflicting in the HTML or CSS of the theme, although the HTML is valid, according
   to the HTML validator.
    I would therefore suggest to stick with removing the 
   CSS that you already found, but not by removing from the default CSS, but by 
   overwriting it in the “Custom CSS” on the “Plugin Options” of TablePress:
 *     ```
       .dataTables_wrapper,
       .dataTables_wrapper .tablepress {
         clear: none !important;
       }
       ```
   
 * Regards,
    Tobias
 *  Thread Starter [jameshart303](https://wordpress.org/support/users/snowboy856/)
 * (@snowboy856)
 * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852672)
 * That worked! Thanks Tobias! 🙂
 *  Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/)
 * (@tobiasbg)
 * [12 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852673)
 * Hi,
 * no problem! 🙂 Good to hear that it helped!
 * Best wishes,
    Tobias
 * P.S.: In case you haven’t, please [rate TablePress](http://wordpress.org/support/view/plugin-reviews/tablepress)
   here in the plugin directory. Thanks!
 *  [ambreswe](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ambreswe/)
 * (@ambreswe)
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852680)
 * hi,
 * I have the same issue.
    When I put in the custom css, only the search box was
   moved up, the table is still waaay down there :P.
 * Any ideas?
 * I can not link to our site since it’s internal only…
    Love the plugin 🙂
 * Thanks 🙂
 *  [esmi](https://wordpress.org/support/users/esmi/)
 * (@esmi)
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852681)
 * **[@ambreswe](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ambreswe/)**: If you require
   assistance then, as per the [Forum Welcome](http://codex.wordpress.org/Forum_Welcome#Where_To_Post),
   please post your own topic.
 *  Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/)
 * (@tobiasbg)
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852682)
 * Hi ambreswe,
 * thanks for your question, and sorry for the trouble.
 * To find out what’s going on here, I’ll need to take a look at the page with the
   table, so that I can inspect the code.
    If you can’t post a link here, can you
   maybe send it to me via email (my address is in the main plugin file “tablepress.
   php”)? I’ll gladly take a look then!
 * Regards,
    Tobias
 *  [ambreswe](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ambreswe/)
 * (@ambreswe)
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852683)
 * Does this help at all?
    [http://pastebin.com/tVYv1U4c](http://pastebin.com/tVYv1U4c)
 *  Moderator [Jan Dembowski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jdembowski/)
 * (@jdembowski)
 * Forum Moderator and Brute Squad
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852684)
 * TobiasBg? You are hands down my favorite plugin author. Your support is top notch
   and you always help your users.
 * _*Jan bows in appreciation*_
 * How you provide support is up to you and I’m grateful for the work you do. But
   it really does help more people when users post their own topics.
 *  Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/)
 * (@tobiasbg)
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852685)
 * Hi,
 * thanks! Unfortunately, it doesn’t really help 🙁 I can eliminate one possible
   cause from this (extra HTML `<br />` tags being added due to line breaks), but
   to get closer to the source of this issue, I’ll need to be able to invest the
   page directly with my browser’s developer tools…
 * Regards,
    Tobias
 *  [ambreswe](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ambreswe/)
 * (@ambreswe)
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852686)
 * Ok. Sorry for posting in the “wrong place” and thanks Tobias for replying, but
   there’s just not way you can access the site, it’s not external. Thanks anyway,
   I’ll just use the plugin without these features.
 *  Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/)
 * (@tobiasbg)
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852687)
 * Hi,
 * ok, I see. Sorry 🙁 I hope that the plugin is still useful for you!
 * Best wishes,
    Tobias
 *  [ambreswe](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ambreswe/)
 * (@ambreswe)
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852688)
 * It is 🙂 thanks for making a great plugin 🙂
 *  Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/)
 * (@tobiasbg)
 * [12 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/#post-3852689)
 * Hi,
 * that’s good to hear 🙂 Thanks!
 * Best wishes,
    Tobias
 * P.S.: In case you haven’t, please [rate TablePress](http://wordpress.org/support/view/plugin-reviews/tablepress)
   here in the plugin directory. Thanks!

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 * Last activity: [11 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/large-blank-space-before-table/page/2/#post-3852696)
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