We are really happy to announce the arrival of a new service – the installing of WordPress for free.
No need to offer money, no need to worry about trusting your details and no need to worry about the job being left incomplete. We will do it for nothing.
There is more information on our blog: http://install4free.wordpress.com
Right now there is a team of 10 of us. We all have extensive experience with WordPress, we all have given our time and expertise in the http://wordpress.org/support forums and we all not only trust each other but we are trusted by our peers.
You want WordPress? You got it 🙂
(note: installing, not hosting)
In as much as this sounds like a good idea, I think the installation of WP (and just installation) is largely a pain free process and a good one for any budding blogger/web-admin to do themselves.
For the fact that you don’t disclose any names of the “volunteers”, it is hard for anyone to feel safe to give you their login information.
The number of posts here regarding installation attests to a need.
There are people who would use WP but the install might be stopping them.
The names? There ia at least one link there to follow which can let you do the maths. Read the ‘Who is running this’ page.
Matt is perfectly aware of this, as are people on the forums mailing list and the hackers mailing list where it has been discussed. this is not about personalities, it’s about a service.
I’ve been a part of all the “development” of this idea in the forums mailing list – none of this has been set up secretly, none of it is for any other reason than to help people get over the hump of the install. (And yes, there are people getting stuck on “Step Two”)
Side note: If this weren’t supported by WordPress and the developers, the link up there wouldn’t be pointing to a subdomain of wordpress.com! I highly doubt that Matt would allow something like this if he weren’t able to trust those involved, and willing to put the very nature of “his name” on it.
Not for nothing, but I think the wariness you appear to have is for naught…
I firmly believe in the idea that people should try to do something by themselves and seek any and all help they can get from others who’ve already gone through similar things so that they can learn themselves.
You say you don’t explain the installation process, that you just do it and let it be. In as much as that can be complicated for some, the customization of the blog that inevitably comes after is even more so. And people who don’t have a clue as to the layout of files and things as such will have an extra hard time.
There is nothing wrong is trying something out, stumbling parhaps, seeking help and learning how to get things done.
If you offered a full-fledged service that not only included installation, but installation of themes and plugins and most importantly explained the whole process step by step to your “customer”, then I would say there is a lot of value.
If people just want to blog without having to worry about the intracasies of maintaining their own domain and the software that runs on it, there are enough services out there for that. But when they take the role of being their own webmaster, I just think they should go all the way and not half-ass it.
P.S., and oh I’m not really concerned about whether this is a ratified thing as far as Matt or others go, I’m just more thinking along the lines of “teach them to fish…”, if you know what I mean..
I sort of agree with you Cyber, the teach to fish thing that is. When I offer advice here, I purposely avoid offering cut and paste solutions. I try to get the person to understand the problem better, so they can come up with the solution themselves as much as possible.
If you can’t handle installing wordpress, I personally recommend wordpress.com or similar such services. But having said that, time will tell if this offer is ultimately useful to some people. If it sets them up to fail in the future, that will become apparent. If it gets them going, so they can then take more time to learn the rest, that will show itself too. I hope it’s successful though. At worst, it’s an interesting experiment. At best, it turns out to be darn helpful!
I couldn’t agree more with the above two posts.
Installing WP isn’t rocket science and it’s skills that anyone running WordPress should learn. I mean, once they get it installed, they’ll still have to install themes, plugins, etc.
And yeah, if you can’t handle installing it, WordPress.com is the way to go.
“If you offered a full-fledged service that not only included installation, but installation of themes and plugins and most importantly explained the whole process step by step to your “customer”, then I would say there is a lot of value.”
I agree there. After all, aren’t just about all WP installations going to have some theme “tinkering” and some plugin installation? Who does that?
If everyone that gets stuck installing WordPress uses this service, then the incentive to make WordPress easier to install and maintain will diminish. Because if no one seeks help on the support-forums for the basics like installing, changing themes etc. the developers won’t know what to fix/improve.
As a community we shouldn’t encourage people to give out their passwords to anyone, even a service, unless some sort of guarantee is provided (or compensation if the passwords are compromised).
A better idea would be if the group that has started this service would work with making WordPress even easier to install, improve documentation, write up guides etc. This would improve the community as a whole instead of just “helping” a few people.
My 10 öre.
My 2 cents is that (even if I needed this) I wouldn’t touch this with a bargepole because there are no names mentioned.
Should you give your name and password to a complete stranger on the internet…
To all the above:
You have the exclusive use of the Installation forum.
It’s yours, all yours.
Go on then, teach. Every single day.
I look forward to it.
You lot really are incapable of following links to mailing lists and putting the numbers 1 and 1 together aren’t you?
Just 2 cents- I’ve been having installation issues, and posted all the details that are available, and have seen no solution or familiarity with the problem (a problem apparently 3 or more of us have). Despite this, and no logs or error messages or any way to even start troubleshooting, I’d prefer working this out with the help of fellows on this list…unless carho’s recommendation were considered and the purpose was to take information from this experience to fix bugs or to improve installation guidance for others.
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