in-text citation treating editors as authors

  • Resolved funkyshab

    (@funkyshab)


    3 years, 4 months ago

    Hey,
    I cant remember this happened before, but it seems like since a while, when you are using whatever author/date intext citation format, the editors are treated as if they were authors, which is clearly wrong for every citation style I know, so I suppose this being a bug. Happens to me with harvard, chicago, and apa.

    Example:

    Burgoyne, J. A., Fujinaga, I., & Downie, J. S. (2015). Music Information Retrieval. In S. Schreibman, R. Siemens, & J. Unsworth (Eds.), A New Companion to Digital Humanities (pp. 213–228). John Wiley & Sons, Ltd. https://doi.org/10.1002/9781118680605.ch15

    should appear in-text as:
    (Burgoyne, Fujinaga & Downie, 2015)

    but instead appears as:
    (Burgoyne, Fujinaga, Downie, Schreibman, Siemens & Unsworth, 2015)

    • This topic was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by funkyshab.
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  • rothguenter

    (@rothguenter)

    3 years, 3 months ago

    I have the same problem!

    rothguenter

    (@rothguenter)

    3 years, 3 months ago

    No one there? Isn’t anyone using the plugin? Are there alternatives?

    kfeuerherm

    (@kfeuerherm)

    3 years, 3 months ago

    @rothguenter Support is off and on. I reported a bug two years ago, was asked to keep them posted, spent some days finding a solution to patch the code… and despite multiple attempts to get this addressed nothing has happened.

    Overworked, I guess. They do try, though, when they can.

    I don’t know of any alternatives, sorry.

    rothguenter

    (@rothguenter)

    3 years, 3 months ago

    Thanks K…

    yes, at least I got a message by katie, that she has no time… 

    I think there would have to be a query built in if the author field is empty, if no then no editors names … 

    A workaround could be to suppress the names of the authors and to type them separately yourself

    Thread Starter funkyshab

    (@funkyshab)

    3 years, 3 months ago

    Yes… or switching to a citation style with numbers…
    Anyways, I love Zotpress so much that I am more than ready to pardon Katie everything and just wait till the update will arrive at some point 😉

    kfeuerherm

    (@kfeuerherm)

    3 years, 3 months ago

    @rothguenter Ok, at least you got that. I’m not a PHP expert and it took me time to figure out, and I posted the code, and… nothing.

    If I had the time I’d work on it, but it’s not a high enough priority item in the grand scheme of things, with everything else I have to do. Good luck!

    Thread Starter funkyshab

    (@funkyshab)

    3 years, 3 months ago

    hm, unfortunately, I am no PHP expert either.. But maybe she is ready to “trade” the pressingly needed update against some support with advanced statistics issues or R ? 😉

    rothguenter

    (@rothguenter)

    3 years, 3 months ago

    @funkyshab “Yes… or switching to a citation style with numbers…”

    by the way, that would be less work than inserting the author names everywhere in the text, but that doesn’t let you cite the exact pages very well anymore, does it?

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 3 months ago by rothguenter.
    Plugin Author Katie

    (@kseaborn)

    3 years, 2 months ago

    Hi all — I apologize for the delay, but life interrupted. As you may know, Zotpress is hobby project I work on when I have time. I’m not paid for it (except for the odd small donation), it’s not connected to my research, I get no recognition for it, and apparently it doesn’t help with finding a job. I’m motivated by positive engagement with you all and a desire to have fun programming. Just fyi.

    @kfeuerherm Thank you for the code submission. Looks like WP locks down threads after a time (not sure how long) and I can’t re-open them, re-post them, etc. I’d like to use your code and credit you. How would you like to be credited?

    By the way, I very much appreciate that the help forum has become a community project. I’d also like to encourage any tech-savvy people to start directly submitting code. If you’re not sure about your submission, you can post in the forums or email me for sign-off. My time and energy for Zotpress is likely to be low and unstable going forward.

    I’ll be taking a look at the editor/author issue as well. Stay tuned.

    kfeuerherm

    (@kfeuerherm)

    3 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Katie,

    Nice to have you back and no worries, I know all about that. My own research has been interrupted so many times…!

    If I understand correctly you can access what code I wrote but can’t post there any longer, is that right?

    So two things: I was in a big hurry as it was a love situation so I copied code from elsewhere and pasted, always a bad idea. I would be inclined to put it into a function and call it from the two places it runs fir ease of maintaining, but that’s of course up to you. The other thing is that as I mentioned in one of the posts there was one table I wasn’t sure whether to clear or not, no doubt you know better on that score.

    If you want you can just buy my user Id in a comment or something off egg my email so I can be contacted which means just adding at and wlu.ca

    You mention it being possible to contact you in future by email? How would that work? (You now know how to reach me directly.)

    All the best!

    Plugin Author Katie

    (@kseaborn)

    3 years, 2 months ago

    @kfeuerherm Thanks for understanding. I did add in your code and it seems to work fine. I’m sure it was an old oversight that didn’t affect too many people so went overlooked for a long time.

    If it’s alright with you, I’ll use your WP username in the code and your full name (Karljürgen Feuerherm) on the front page.

    We can all read old threads but WP automatically shuts them down after a period of time. I don’t know how long that period is, but I can’t respond to or re-open threads when they’ve been shut down.

    kfeuerherm

    (@kfeuerherm)

    3 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Katie,

    Absolutely, no worries. It was code I copied from another part of the plug-in and effectively just has the effect of doing a reset at the start to clear out cobwebs.

    I suspect the issue arose for me because I was cloning sites in a multi-site context and something or other got done in an unusual order, and after a while I found out that if my users did a reset right away then all was well 🙂

    Thanks for the plug-in and best wishes going forward. I understand the overworked bit all too well!!

    Plugin Author Katie

    (@kseaborn)

    3 years, 2 months ago

    Thanks! Another reason there’s been a delay is that I have new Gutenberg features ready to go, which should really ramp up the UX on the post writing / shortcode creation side. Stay tuned.

    kfeuerherm

    (@kfeuerherm)

    3 years, 2 months ago

    Looking forward to whatever 🙂

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